When will EBS 12.2 be released?

[Sep. 20, 2013 Update:  EBS 12.2 is now available for download.  See this article for details.]

The most frequently asked question at OpenWorld this year was, "When will EBS 12.2 be released?"

Sadly, Oracle's communication policies prohibit us from speculating about release dates for unreleased software. We are not permitted to give estimates, rough timelines, guesses, or anything else that remotely resembles specific guidance on release dates.

You can monitor My Oracle Support and this blog for updates on EBS 12.2.  I'll post them here as soon as they're available. 

I'm embedding an old favourite from 2007 in its entirety here, since it applies equally to new releases as well as certifications.


"Loose Lips Sink Ships" (March 20, 2007)

If I were to sort emails in my inbox into groups, the biggest -- by far -- would be the one for emails that start with, "When will _____ be certified with the E-Business Suite?"  I answer these dutifully but know that my replies can sometimes be maddening, for two reasons:  technical uncertainty, and Oracle's rules for such communications.

On the Spiral Model of Certifications

Technology stack certifications tend to be highly iterative in nature.  As a result, statements about certification dates tend to be accurate only when made in hindsight.  Laypeople are horrified to hear this, but it's the ugly truth.  Uncertainty is simply inherent to the process.  I've become inured to it over the years, but it might come as a surprise to you that it can take many cycles to get fully-released software to work together. 

Take this scenario:
  1. We test a particular combination of Component A and B.
  2. If we encounter a problem, say, with Component A, we log a bug.
  3. We receive a new version of Component A.
  4. The process iterates again.
The reality is this: until a certification is completed and released, there's no accurate way of telling how many iterations are yet to come.  This is true regardless of the number of iterations that have already been completed

Our Lips Are Sealed


Generally, people understand that things are subject to change, so the second reason I can't say anything specific is actually much more important than the first.  "Loose lips might sink ships" was coined in World War II in an effort to remind people that careless talk can have serious consequences.  Curiously, this applies to Oracle's communications about upcoming features, configurations, and releases, too.  As a publicly traded company, we have very strict policies that prohibit us from linking specific releases to specific dates. 

If you've ever listened to an earnings call with analysts, you'll often hear them asking, "Can you add a little more color to that statement?"  For certifications, color is usually the only thing that I have.  Sometimes I can provide a bit more information about the technical nature of the certification in question, such as expected footprints or version levels.  I can occasionally share technical issues that we've found, too, to convey the degree of risk or complexity involved in the certification. 

Aside from that, there's little additional information about specific dates, date ranges, or even speculation about dates that I can provide... that is, without having one of those uncomfortable conversations with Oracle Legal.  So, as much as it pains me to do so, when it comes to dates, I'm always forced to conclude with a generic reply that blandly states one of the following:
  • We're working on that certification right now
  • That certification is in the pipeline but hasn't been started yet
  • We don't have plans for that certification

Don't Shoot the Messenger

Thankfully, I've developed a thick skin over the years -- which is a good thing, considering the colorful and energetic responses I've received over the years after answering these questions.  However, on behalf of my Oracle colleagues who are faced with these questions every day in the field, I urge you to remember that they're required to follow these same corporate rules about date disclosures.  It never hurts to ask, but don't be too disappointed if we can't provide you with a detailed answer.  The Go-Go's had it right, after all. 

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Comments:

Thanks Steven for detailed information. I may ask you one question, is there any future release on the RUP after 12.1.3 atleast?

Posted by Balaji Srinivasan on October 08, 2012 at 08:52 PM PDT #

Balaji,

Individual product families continue to produce family-level Release Update Packs for 12.1. These activities are ongoing. We have no plans for a suite-wide Release Update Pack on the EBS 12.1 codeline at this point.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on October 09, 2012 at 04:15 PM PDT #

Hi Steven,
I understand your point about the complexity of testing and that the technology shift impacts this release in many areas.
My question is, if this were to take, say, another year to validate, would product managers be allowed to introduce new functionality into the code-base during this period?

Posted by guest on October 26, 2012 at 08:31 AM PDT #

Hi, Guest,

No, they wouldn't. It's impossible to stabilize a codeline if you keep adding new features.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on October 26, 2012 at 09:36 AM PDT #

Hi,

now the year is 2013 , any idea when 12.2 will be released. we are hearing the news from 2011.

how log should we wait for that...?

regards
ramkumar

Posted by Ram on February 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM PST #

Hi, Ramkumar,

We're not permitted to speculate about release dates. Stay tuned to this blog for more news, which I'll share as soon as possible.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on February 12, 2013 at 03:59 PM PST #

Hi Steven,

it saddens me to say but I am starting to think EBS 12.2 is a stillborn as Oracle needs to get customers moving to Fusion Apps. Every passing week makes this chance.

Posted by Jos Nijhoff on March 26, 2013 at 07:54 AM PDT #

Hi, Jos,

I can strongly reassure you that EBS 12.2 is alive and well. We haven't released it publicly yet because we really want to get this right. Stay tuned; there's good news to come on this front.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on March 26, 2013 at 08:25 AM PDT #

Thank you Steven, I am really looking forward to that!

Posted by Jos Nijhoff on March 26, 2013 at 09:06 AM PDT #

Hi Steven,

Most of Oracle EBS customers are now completely confused as to the future of the product. While I do completely understand that you cannot speculate about release dates, a draft roadmap (with dates!) goes a long way in allaying customer fears. With Fusion queering the pitch, customers have now seriously started fearing the worst - its Fusion or NOTHING!

Warm Regards,
Dibyajit

Posted by guest on April 11, 2013 at 04:47 AM PDT #

Hi, Dibyajit,

Thanks for your comments. I appreciate your eagerness to get a specific date for this upcoming release. The absence of that information, however, does not change our EBS strategy.

The E-Business Suite and Fusion Applications are separate product families, in the same way that the E-Business Suite and PeopleSoft are separate product families. Fusion is not an "upgrade" to the E-Business Suite. From a technology stack standpoint, EBS 12.2 is the biggest and most-exciting upgrade to the E-Business Suite in our product's history. Please stay tuned; we'll post more updates here as soon as possible.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on April 11, 2013 at 06:06 AM PDT #

Hi Steven:

Is there a document that outlines the functional enhancements in Procurements, Finance, HRMS in R 12.2 ?

Or is R 12.2 just a technology stack upgrade ? Also will R 12.2 contain a more recent version of XML Publisher engine ?

Thanks - Yesh

Posted by Yesh Nandi on May 01, 2013 at 09:46 PM PDT #

Hi, Yesh,

Details about 12.2's enhancements to both the technology stack and functional products are listed in this published document:

Oracle E-Business Suite Releases 12.1 and 12.2 Release Content Documents [ID 1302189.1]

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on May 02, 2013 at 06:56 AM PDT #

Where can we find EBS 12.2 implimentation or Upgrade document for Testing environment ? Do we need to raise SR for these documents ?

Posted by guest on June 05, 2013 at 05:05 AM PDT #

Hello, Guest,

EBS 12.2 isn't released yet, so neither the code nor documentation are available for use.

Oracle's Revenue Recognition rules prohibit us from discussing certification and release dates, but you're welcome to monitor or subscribe to this blog. I'll post updates here as soon as soon as they're available.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on June 05, 2013 at 09:40 AM PDT #

Hi Steven,

What is the latest Oracle EBS version? is EBS 12.1.4 released?

Regards
Silaelo

Posted by Silaelo Mokgolobetsi on June 19, 2013 at 03:45 AM PDT #

Hi, Silaelo,

EBS 12.1.3 is the latest available. We have no current plans to produce a 12.1.4 Release Update Pack.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on June 19, 2013 at 09:50 AM PDT #

Hi Steven,

Thanks, is there a central place on Oracle Support website where customers can view the latest EBS Family Product Updates available?

Regards
Silaelo

Posted by Silaelo Mokgolobetsi on June 20, 2013 at 01:09 AM PDT #

Hi, Silaelo,

Yes. Check out Note 432.1 and select "E-Business Suite" from the list.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on June 20, 2013 at 09:47 AM PDT #

I look forward to a future R12.2 release considering it was first announced to be released in 2011

Posted by guest on June 23, 2013 at 09:55 PM PDT #

Hi, Guest (Laurie),

An important clarification: we shared details about 12.2 a while back but have never announced a release date. Doing so would violate Oracle's rules around disclosures -- we're not permitted to speculate about release dates for upcoming products.

We're as eager to get 12.2 out as you are to see it. Stay tuned.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on June 24, 2013 at 08:03 AM PDT #

Hi Steven

Thanks a lot for maintaining this informative blog!

Given that 12.2 is going to be released sometime soon - what is your advise for customers who want to upgrade from 11i to R12. Should they wait for 12.2 or should they go for 12.1.3 ?

In our particular case - we have at least 2 more months before we embark on this. However, we wanted to be able to start the planning process as early as possible.

Regards,
Rahul

Posted by guest on July 08, 2013 at 02:51 PM PDT #

Hi, Rahul,

>Given that 12.2 is going to be released sometime soon...

It's important to note that *NOBODY* at Oracle has made any statements about a release date for EBS 12.2. We are not permitted to do so.

We recommend that all EBS 11i users begin their upgrade projects immediately with a target of EBS 12.1.3. There are a number of important functional enhancements in R12, including new support for multiple sets of books, subledger accounting, shared service centers, and more.

These new functional enhancements will require your involvement from your business end-users to implement properly. They may choose to redesign business processes to take advantage of new or streamlined steps in EBS, too.

All of these activities may take some time, so you should begin this work now. All of this work will apply to EBS 12.1.3 and carry over to EBS 12.2, which you can switch to mid-stream if the circumstances permit at the time of the latter's release.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on July 09, 2013 at 01:46 PM PDT #

Hi Steven,

Several Oracle customers who are migrating from R11 to R12 are asking if they should upgrade to R12.1.3 or if they should wait for R12.2

R12.1.3 is in half of premier support time, and this situation worries customers that should make a substantial investment in upgrade projects.

What is your advise for customers who want to upgrade from 11i to R12?

Thanks a lot

Pablo

Posted by Pablo on August 09, 2013 at 08:10 AM PDT #

Pablo,

We recommend that all EBS 11i users begin their upgrade projects immediately with a target of EBS 12.1.3. There are a number of important functional enhancements in R12, including new support for multiple sets of books, subledger accounting, shared service centers, and more.

Getting the full benefit of these new functional enhancements will likely require involvement from your business end-users. They may choose to redesign business processes to take advantage of new or streamlined steps in EBS, too.

All of these activities may take some time and are needed regardless of whether your target is 12.1.3 or 12.2, so you should begin this work now. All of this work for EBS 12.1.3 will carry over to EBS 12.2, which you can switch to mid-stream if the circumstances permit at the time of the latter's release.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on August 09, 2013 at 08:14 AM PDT #

Hi Steven
Are We There Yet?
Media and Patches for "Oracle E-Business Suite Release 12.2.2" seem to have gone up in the last couple of days.
So when's the big announcement!
Gordon

Posted by guest on September 20, 2013 at 07:53 AM PDT #

Indeed, Gordon. I've just announced it here:

Oracle E-Business Suite 12.2 Now Available
https://blogs.oracle.com/stevenChan/entry/ebs_12_2_now_available

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on September 20, 2013 at 04:11 PM PDT #

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