Annbank United F.C. 1952-53

I'm guessing this picture is of the 1952-53 Annbank United F.C. squad who were runners up in the Scottish Junior Cup. My grandfather is on the right, he is the manager/coach with the cap on. I haven't a clue as to who anyone else is in the picture. My aunts were children when this was taken and you would have had to have been a relative for it to stick in their minds.

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Team Names: top left to right.

  • Jimmy Durnie [joined Glasgow Rangers]
  • Sammy Davidson [Junior Internationalist]
  • Andy Hunter [Captain]
  • Johnny Neeson
  • Charlie Guthrie
  • Bobby Cuthbertson
  • Sammy Phillips [joined Third Lanark F.C.]
  • Tammy Dunlop [President] J.P. & Local Councillor

Front

  • Archie Wilson[Gager only local Goodwin Drive]
  • Rabbie Anderson
  • the one name I always forget [ex Crosshouse Waverley]
  • Tommy Brown [joined Ipswich Town F.C.]
  • Davie Tennant [joined Ipswich Town F.C.]

I only knew him after he had retired from the coal mines (or close enough that it did not matter). When I played with a football, it was always however I wanted to do it. He never came out to coach me. It was a different era back then, when kids played outside and adults were not as fanatical about organized sports. It was the same for me when I was in the US or Germany.

I was back in Annbank a couple of years ago, it hasn't changed that much - the houses now have driveways in the front and solariums in the back. Poli still comes by every night with ice cream. The kids still play out on the street. You might have a neighbor kid or two in your yard. I found it really strange and disturbing. Instead of thinking, "Ahh, the good old days!", I was wondering if these people cared about their children. Times were not simpler, they had just not been robbed of their neighborhoods. Violence is much more a part of life out there.

But back to my grandfather - in a way, once it really clicked that he was a coach, I was sad he never got a chance to help me. I don't think it would have changed my time as a player that much (I've always been tall and was coordinationally challenged). But as an adult coach, I wish he had words of coaching wisdom to pass down to me. As it is, the best I have is a fierce love of Rangers.


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ive no idea who you are friend,but as someone born and bred in annbank,i resent your silly comments "I was wondering if these people cared about their children. Times were not simpler, they had just not been robbed of their neighborhoods. Violence is much more a part of life out there" what exactly does that mean ?? do you think cause you visited annbank for a short time that you have the right to make silly and pig ignorant remarks ?.for your information annbank is one of the safest places in britain for kids to grow up.and im quite sure that "these people" as you call them care very much for their kids,im guessing that as thats your grandfather in the pic, then you are a dunlop ? from whitehill i think........same as me,if so you must know annbank is gods country.drop me a line on the above e mail and i will happily keep you updated on annbank and village life.cheers gordon currie gordoncurrie252@aol.com

Posted by gordon currie on February 23, 2007 at 05:13 AM CST #

Gordon,

I've spent more than a couple of weeks in Annbank - just not for 30 years. I was also born and bred in Annbank for quite some time.

I think my comments came across wrong - I'm not blasting Annbank, I'm more concerned about the environment I am in right now. My points were:

  1. American society has really changed where kids do not play outside. In part it is due to video games, but it is mostly about the fear we live in from the predators.
  2. British society has not changed that much with respect to kids playing outside. Video games can be just as prevalent, but I don't think the fear of the predators is there.

<em>I say British because I saw the same thing with some of my cousins in England on the same trip. I suspect that many European cities would share this lack of fear of predators.</em>

I don't think the level of violence in Annbank is higher than the neighborhood that I live in. I think the fear in my neighborhood is much higher. My wife and I were just talking about when we would let my 10 year old son ride his bike by himself. Her response was a 13 year old had just been abducted.

I don't think we would have been having that discussion in Annbank. First off all, the neighbors would know my son and he would know the place like the back of his hand.

When I ask the question about whether the parents care for their kids, I'm not questioning the love of the parents, I'm trying to show how warped American society has become about protecting their children.

When I was young and in Annbank, I had the freedom and trust to go wherever I wanted. I don't recall having to ask to go outside and I knew by the time it got dark to head back. I knew my extended family would take care of me and I knew that if I needed help, I could ask anyone. Part of that trust from my family was that their neighbors would look out for me. I'm convinced that attitude still exists today in Annbank.

I wouldn't have a problem living in Annbank or bringing my son up there either. I'm pretty sure I would learn to be comfortable in letting my son out of my eyesight.

Thanks,
Tom

Posted by Tom Haynes on February 23, 2007 at 06:04 AM CST #

Re your team photo: Your grandfather was not a coach. He was President of the club for many years and also was a highly respected member of the community. The photo is not the team that played at Hampden but was taken earlier. Only 4 players in the photo played in the cup fina namely Neeson Davidson Hunter and Anderson. Hope this is of some help to you.

Posted by jim jess on April 30, 2007 at 06:04 AM CDT #

hope this helps

Posted by jim jess on May 20, 2007 at 03:51 AM CDT #

nice to see something from annbanks past i was privelaged to be 1 of the 4 in this picture
the team shown didnt play on new pebble park
i am in australia living for the last 40 odd yrars but my heart as it always was is still in annbank
rabbie anderson

Posted by rabbie anderson on October 30, 2007 at 05:59 AM CDT #

Rabbie,

Nice to hear from you.

My grandfather had passed away some time ago, so as I found these pictures with my auntie, it was all of a guess. I have since found some pictures on the web, but nothing as nice as this one.

I wish I had been able to talk to him about those days.

But what I like now is that I can share my love for football with my son.

Thanks,
Tom

Posted by Tom Haynes on October 30, 2007 at 06:09 AM CDT #

I left Annbank in 1963 just two weeks off my 10th birthday. I went back every year until my grandmother Janet Jardine passed away on my birthday. People in Annbank and surrounding villages are very friendly people everyone knows everyone else (dont know if thats a good thing). A couple of months ago I got up very early in the morning from my home in England and drove up the west coast all the way ''home'' I went down to Gradgirth Bridge (woops spelling) and
stayed there for sometime 'just thinking' then drove into the village and just stopped outside my old house in Goodwin Drive, which I am sure was haunted, and then stopped outside my grandmothers for one last look. On the way out of the village I saw my cousin Paul Jardine , The Late David Jardines' son. and stopped the car and
had a natter. I then visited his mum my wonderful Aunty Hetty for a cuppa and then drove down to the shore and walked for miles. My husband hadnt a clue where I was that day I just felt a longing to go back.....I have two sons, (One living in the states) both Professional Motor sportsmen and just wanted to say hello from an X annbanker.. Would I go back to Annbank......yes if I get divorced I might do.
But I hope I dont.

Posted by Janis Ellison (Ne Galt) on November 25, 2007 at 07:26 AM CST #

Janis i enjoyed reading your comments.
im glad that as an "x annbanker" you yet feel the urge & need to go "home".its a great thing doing what you did,& just driving up the road to annbank.im only in the toon so i can do it every day,and every time the bus goes up the weston brae i get the same feelings as you did.
i often wonder if anything in life could be as enjoyable on a nice day (or night)as standing at gadgirth brig.its a fantastic place i think,and my mind right now has led me there once more.i earned to swim at the "sawn bed" as it was locally known,which was the place young yins learned in my day.im 44 now so the late sixtes i learned to swim.the next step up for swimmers was "murrays hole",then either the "wee dam" or if you were experienced or daft enough the "dam".many happy days i spent in the water,and i will someday swim in the dam again.although its hardly deep enough now.

i remember your gran fine.jinty saunders.she was a great lady.her and my gran were pally for a while.she was mary currie nee fulton.although you might not have known her,she was great with jinty.
paul is a year or so older than me,and is my mum and dads postman.hes a nice guy,but a rotten postman...ha ha.
i was wonderin janis if you are from kendal ?
a few years ago i went out with a girl from kendal who was up at annbank with jinty saunders' grandaughter. i realise this grandaughter isnt you,but i wondered if perhaps shes your sister or cousin ?

i enjoyed readin your comments and im grateful to tom haynes for this site and to all those that have taken the time to comment.

ps.......which number was your house in goodwin drive ? the haunted part is fascinating me janis.
cheers... gordoncurrie252@aol.com

Posted by gordon on November 26, 2007 at 02:36 AM CST #

One thing I was struck with was how serene the countryside looked. Tulsa is pretty, but that is mainly because of trees. San Jose is pretty, but that is mainly because of wild flowers on the roadside.

Annbank was pretty because of the grass, the hedges, the twisting roads, etc.

I can remember walking to Mossblown and Ayr on my own as a child. I can remember following my Grandfather all over the place on his daily walks.

Posted by Tom Haynes on November 26, 2007 at 02:58 AM CST #

By the way, if you can identify people in the picture, I'm willing to add a caption with their names.

Posted by Tom Haynes on November 26, 2007 at 03:00 AM CST #

hi tom,
like you i can remember walking to mossblown on my own.i walked to annbank primary almost every day.nowadays you never see a wean walking to the school.every mother however seems to be driving the kid to school.no wonder the roads are so busy and polution is at a high.the earliest memory i have of walking to mossblown on my own was when i was 4 years old.my mum was at mossblown hairdressers at the toll,and it was the day of the club trip.i set of to find her incase i didnt get the trip.however i was halted on my journey at the brickwork. jack scott from dunlop avenue saw me and recognised me,and decided to drive me home.i was terrified i would miss the trip.this frightened me more than any fear of the road or " a bad man" liftin me and taking me away !.
i got to the trip though.........it was to cumnock !! might as well have been the other side of the world for all knew.

but tom your right about the scenery.the reason the countryside around annbank looks so good is easy.......its gods own country. haha(i aint no church goer).

Posted by gordon on November 26, 2007 at 03:22 AM CST #

The house we lived at was No. 84 My parents probably told us the house wa haunted because we were a rowdy bunch and it stopped us going upstairs to make the rooms untidy. and the bogey man would get us. I have many sisters and one brother Robert who was the oldest. I lived across the Road from Noren and Tom McWhinnie and outside the house on the pavement were the words 'Up wi king Billy and Down with the Pope' which no one ever tried to remove and as King Billy had been dead for hundred of years I used to think that thats was how long it had been there on the pavment.(I was only 7 or 8) We live all over the Country now, but all based in England.

Posted by Janis Ellison (Ne Galt) on November 26, 2007 at 06:51 AM CST #

I thought the person on the front row was my uncle David jardine, but on closer inpspection I am not too sure. Does anyone have any names to these people. David was born in 1933 /34 would have been 18 or 19 at the time.

Posted by Janis Ellison (Ne Galt) on November 26, 2007 at 06:56 AM CST #

Hi Janis,
Your uncle David was in the same class as my brother Andrew. They were best pals at school. When I told him about you it brought back some happy memories of the time he spent at"JINTYS"

Team Names: top left to right.

Jimmy Durnie [joined Glasgow Rangers]
Sammy Davidson [Junior Internationalist]
Andy Hunter [Captain]
Johnny Neeson
Charlie Guthrie
Bobby Cuthbertson
Sammy Phillips [joined Third Lanark F.C.]
Tammy Dunlop [President] J.P. & Local Councillor

Front

Archie Wilson[Gager only local Goodwin Drive]
Rabbie Anderson
the one name I always forget [ex Crosshouse Waverley]
Tommy Brown [joined Ipswich Town F.C.]
Davie Tennant [joined Ipswich Town F.C.]

Hope this helps.

Posted by guest on November 30, 2007 at 02:05 AM CST #

Oh My Goodness Thank you .. all those names
I will show themto My mum (Agnes Jardine) and dad (Jimmy Galt) They are still here with us. Mum is 75 and dad will be 77 on Christmas Day.
Merry Xmas everyone and Happy Hogmany

Posted by Janis Ellison (Ne Galt) on November 30, 2007 at 06:31 AM CST #

By them way All together Mum had
Robert Janis Margaret Anne Lynne Alison and Mary.
Grandchildren too many to count.
My two sons are Sportsmen in the Superbike and Motogp Championships throughout the world.
Dean Ellison and James Ellison.

Posted by Janis Ellison (Ne Galt) on November 30, 2007 at 06:34 AM CST #

It was my siter Lynne ,Gordon and Her friend was called Caroline

Posted by Janis Ellison (Ne Galt) on December 16, 2007 at 07:34 AM CST #

thanks janis for your response.your absolutely right about the names.if i remember correctly Caroline was a "wee redhead". both her and your sister lynne were lovely lassies.ive often thought about them.my friend and i went to kendal one sunday morning to visit them.it was a lovely day..we ended up "fu".caroline i think worked in a shoe shop at that time.im not sure where lynne worked.when they were in annbank i remember the four of us going a walk along the river.we ended up on the viaduct.the girls were terrified of the height of it.although i protected them !! ha ha.
if and when janis you get a chance give your sister lynne my regards.and of course caroline too if you ever hear from her.my e mail address is here if they ever want to drop me line.
happy days.
thanks again janis

Posted by gordon on December 17, 2007 at 12:55 AM CST #

it was nice to read about Annbank my family left there in 63 our backyard backed on to the football park i think it was 117 western avenue i spent many days playing around the park and borrowing apples from the farm or house down near the bridge i think i have a picture of my Grandfather i was told it was at ther opening of the park not sure hes just there kicking the first ball his name was mcroberts anyway thanks for taking me back in time

Posted by bill kerr on July 10, 2008 at 04:15 PM CDT #

I've stumbled upon your blog and thought that I have some photos of Annbank which may interest you
I must confess though, that the majority of the photos are of Mossblown. Nevertheless I'm sure any ex-pats wil be curious to see how their village is looking in August 2008, and in my opinion, speaking as a native of Mossblown, I think that currently, Annbank is the prettier village!
Have a look here by clicking the links below:
(if the links are not allowed/shown then email me personally and I will send you the links by return of email.
http://www.danderloo.co.uk/msblwn3rd/index.html
http://www.danderloo.co.uk/msblwn1st/index.html
http://www.danderloo.co.uk/msblwn2nd/index.html

Posted by Alan Mcintyre on August 31, 2008 at 11:49 AM CDT #

I just happened upon your site and noticed the picture. Tommy Brown was my great-uncle who has since passed on. My grandfather was from Annbank lived on Brown's crescent, William Saunders some may have known him as Willie he was the son to Richard Saunders or what other called him "Ol Dick". My grandfather came to the states in the 60's and I finally had the chance to go to Scotland for the 1st time in 2007. My favorite place was Annbank, probably because of all the stories that I had heard as a child. But as I stood there on Brown's crescent all those stories came to life and they will forever be etched in my memory! Thank you for posting that picture and thank you everyone for commenting and allowing me to read them!

Posted by Richelle Saunders Augustine on August 11, 2009 at 03:22 PM CDT #

Hi Richelle My Grandmother Jinty Jardine whom I mentioned before is Janet saunders(born in 1909) Her mother was
Agnes Monaghan Saunders and her father was Thomas Paton Saunders from Annbank. Richard who went to America was her cousin I think Yes he was known as ''Ol Dick Sonners'' So hello from a distant relative in England

Posted by janis ellison on September 10, 2009 at 10:11 AM CDT #

HI RICHELLE My mum seems to think that Richard Saunders is her uncle. My grandmother had a brother called Richard Saunders. from Annbank.

Posted by janis Ellison on September 11, 2009 at 04:13 AM CDT #

Hi Janis or could I say cousin! My grandfather is the one who went to USA William Saunders the family in Scotland called him Willie and here in the states they called him Bill. His father was Richard Saunders and his mother Margaret Saunders who died just shortly after he was born. I would love to talk to you more about our relatives my email is: augustine@wirelessbeehive.com

Posted by Richelle Saunders Augustine on October 20, 2009 at 01:13 PM CDT #

My mum is looking for her old friend Peggy McPyke from Annbank She thinks she moved to troon or Irvine and married someone called Nichols or nicholson, in the 1950'sShe also had a sister but she cant remember the name thanks Janis

Posted by Janis Galt Ellison on May 25, 2010 at 06:23 AM CDT #

hi Dick Saunders was my great grandfather my grandmothers name was Isa and I remember visiting Dick at Brown crescent he is buried in Mossblown next to his daunghter Martha

Posted by patrick Saunders on October 15, 2010 at 11:20 PM CDT #

Hi Patrick, good to see another Saunders! I just talked to my grandmother and your grandmother Isa would be my grandfather's 1/2 sister. Send me your email address and I would love to share some pics with you and info.

Posted by Richelle Saunders Augustine on October 16, 2010 at 03:26 AM CDT #

Hi Richelle
It's tp.saunders@btinternet.com
Good to hear from you
Patrick

Posted by Patrick Saunders on October 16, 2010 at 04:52 AM CDT #

I remember Margaret and Tom Saunders who lived in Browns Crescent They were my relatives. They had a daughter called Carol. Are you related to those people

Posted by janis ellison on October 16, 2010 at 10:55 AM CDT #

i dont remember margaret or tom but the last time i visited dick was still alive so that must have been early fifties i think .although i live in ayr now most of my life was lived elsewhere. i remember tommy and martha brown living there they had a son named charlie i think he would be around 67 now

Posted by patrick Saunders on October 17, 2010 at 05:51 AM CDT #

I lived in Annbank in the early fifties . There was a Richard Saunders who owned a large house in Annbank and he also had a drapery business. He would drive through all the outlying villages selling clothing. Would this be your relative.. I think that he was my grandmother
Janet Jardine (Nee Saunders) Cousin). Then there was James Saunders from Mossblown my grandmothers Brother. Also Neil Saunders from Tarbolton.

Posted by janis on October 17, 2010 at 09:19 AM CDT #

shhh richard "dick"was the local bookie lol

Posted by patrick Saunders on October 17, 2010 at 09:21 AM CDT #

Tommy Brown was married to my great aunt Martha who they both lived in Browns Crescent. Yes "Dick" was the local bookie and my grandfather his son "Willie" who was the youngest child had to run the money back and forth through out the village. My daughter and I are coming to Scotland next June with my grandmother for 3 weeks. Wouldn't it be great if we could gather as many of our Saunders for a reunion there in Annbank?

Posted by Richelle Saunders Augustine on October 17, 2010 at 12:38 PM CDT #

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