Out With the Old, In With the New

[July 16, 2008 Update: Apparently, the Firefox team isn't sitting around eating bonbons all day. They've just released Firefox 2.0.0.16, less than two weeks after 2.0.0.15 was released. The former may be safely used with the E-Business Suite.] As a Firefox user myself, I'm pleased to see that Firefox 2.0.0.15 was released yesterday with thirteen fixes for security-related issues. Firefox 2 logoPerhaps more significantly, Mozilla announced yesterday that Firefox 2 will be desupported in mid-December, 2008. As noted in ComputerWorld's article about this browser update, Mozilla supports previous Firefox releases for approximately six months after a major update. When Will Firefox 3 Be Certified With Apps? If the clock is ticking for Firefox 2, you obviously need to start thinking about upgrading your end-users to Firefox 3. We're in the final stages of our certification of FF3 with both Oracle E-Business Suite Release 11i and 12. I can't provide a release date for this certification yet, for the usual reasons. I can tell you that the certification is going well and is proceeding quickly. You're welcome to monitor or subscribe to this blog for updates on Firefox 3, which I'll post as soon as soon as they're available.
Comments:

Hi Chan,

Thats a great news, although FF2 is getting desupported by mid Dec-2008, its not a problem at all since we have all downloaded FF3 and waiting to install it in office machines ;).

We are waiting to see FF3 in the compatibility list of browsers for Oracle EBS application 11i as well as 12i. However I noticed some problems of running Jinitiator and J2SE together in different tabs of FF2 and it gets crashed with Vista OS. For work around we are opening Jinitiator version in FF2 and J2SE in IE7.

I know JInitiator is no long longer supported but we experience more than JInitiator problems with Vista OS. Are there any updates on Vista OS front? When can we expect the EBS compatibility issues resolved with Vista without any work arounds?

Posted by Jithendra on July 03, 2008 at 01:41 PM PDT #

Hi, Jithendra,

My first name is Steven.

Firefox does not support running two different JVMs simultaneously. You're welcome to log an enhancement request for this against Mozilla, but I suspect that the likelihood of their supporting this is slim.

I'd be interested in getting more details about compatibility issues that you've found between the E-Business Suite and Vista. Our certification tests have not found anything significant, so this certainly is worth investigating further. Please provide the details in a formally-logged Service Request via Metalink and drop me an email with the SR number. I'll have one of my certification engineers follow up with the Support Engineer assigned to your SR.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on July 07, 2008 at 02:28 AM PDT #

Sure Steven, I will raise an SR on this particular scenario and post the SR number here for your reference.

Thanks a lot! Much appreciated!!

Posted by Jithendra on July 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM PDT #

Hey Steven--My name is Steve, although my wife calls me Steven when she is annoyed with me. Can I simply say that FF3 rocks? You might be a lawbreaker in your company, and all your apps might not play nice with it yet, but it's simply a delight to use. Nice UI enhancements, and it's fast!

Posted by Steve on July 12, 2008 at 07:42 PM PDT #

Hi, Steve,

I like FF3 a lot myself, although I'm encountering some focus-related issues with assorted websites. The perils of being on the leading edge, I suppose. Occupational hazard. I particularly like the extra speed and the way add-ons are handled now.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on July 15, 2008 at 05:03 AM PDT #

I just upgraded to firefox 3. One nice surprise is that I can use it for both JRE and jinitiator with one setting. for FF2, I have to check "enable java" for JRE and uncheck it for jinitiator.

Posted by Tianhua Wu on August 27, 2008 at 02:51 AM PDT #

Tianhua,

Thanks for your feedback about Firefox 3. We're pretty encouraged by our cert tests so far, too.

Out of curiosity, can you confirm that you're still on EBS 11.5.10.2, and whether you've encountered any UI-related issues with FF 3?

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on August 27, 2008 at 05:36 AM PDT #

When will FF3 be certified with 11.5.10.2

Posted by sean on August 27, 2008 at 08:16 AM PDT #

Sean,

We're wrapping up this certification right now. I don't have a firm date for this yet, but you're welcome to monitor or subscribe to this blog for updates, which I'll post as soon as soon as they're available.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on August 28, 2008 at 05:24 AM PDT #

Sorry, Steven, I was on vacation. I tried firefox 3 for both EBS 11.5.10.2 and 12.0.4. So far I did not run into any issue. But I do not use EBS as much as regular end users, I only use it for DBA works.

Posted by Tianhua Wu on September 24, 2008 at 12:47 AM PDT #

Hi Steven,

When I worked in another organization, we were having so many issues with IE7 and toolbars, as well as IE7 runtime errors that only had the workaround of re-installing Jinitiator. We ended up using Firefox2 as the standard browser for the organization. This company was a supply chain and used modules that used the Oracle Forms gui.

The place that I am in now is mostly Project based and is using Self Service Time and Expense with issues specific to Firefox only. It is an opposite issue when submitting an expense report, click on next or save, it populates back the old values to the fields. We have tested the scenario and it seems to be happening on every machine tested. IE7 doesn't seem to have the issue, bringing it is own set of issues, and I did not see this part of the Release Notes and a bug that was caught.

I will create an SR on this when I have some bandwith, as you will probably direct me to do as a next step. I was wondering, however, with all the praises of FF2 from Oracle users and this issue to us being major enough where we decided not to use FF, are we the only ones experiencing weird behaviors such as this with Oracle Web Based Apps and Firefox? Also, the rendering works correctly in IE7 but doesn't on Firefox and seems to be standards related - or rendering of the same code differently.

Thanks,

Brian Park

Posted by Brian Park on October 29, 2008 at 07:03 AM PDT #

Hello Brian,

The issue you describe sounds pretty dramatic and am not aware of this being a known issue. Firefox 2 has generally proven to be a solid and reliable browser with EBiz so seems odd you are having this issue.

I presume you already conform to the Prerequisites listed in Note 285218.1 "Recomended Browsers for Oracle E-Business Suite 11i" so certainly need to get a SR raised to investigate your specific circumstances

regards

Mike Shaw

Posted by Mike Shaw on October 29, 2008 at 05:09 PM PDT #

Hello, Brian,

Like Mike, I haven't heard of this as a known issue. In addition to our customers, we run Internet Expenses internally here at Oracle, and I've personally logged many an expense report using Firefox 2.

It does sound like there may be something odd going on in your desktop environment. I'd echo Mike's advice to log this formally as a Service Request, with the added request that you email me your SR number so that I can have my engineers work with Support on this one.

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on October 30, 2008 at 07:09 AM PDT #

Hi Steve,

Does oracle plan on staying ahead of testing sun's latest JRE release before its released to the general public?.
It seems that JRE 1.6.0_11 has been released but its not yet certified with oracle. Since users can upgrade JRE on their machines independently , this can potentially cause apps to stop working on their systems.

Regards,

Navdeep

Posted by Navdeep Singh on December 04, 2008 at 02:16 AM PST #

Hi, Navdeep,

Users can update their PCs independently; this will not be a problem for EBS compatibility.

We changed our certification and support policy around JREs earlier this year. As of March 2008, you don't have to wait for Oracle to certify a given new JRE release with the E-Business Suite -- you can simply go ahead and use it, as long as it's above a certain minimum JRE level.

For more details about this new policy, see:

New Sun Java JRE Plug-In Certification Policy for Apps 11i & 12 - http://blogs.oracle.com/stevenChan/2008/03/new_sun_java_jre_plugin_certif.html

Regards,
Steven

Posted by Steven Chan on December 04, 2008 at 03:34 AM PST #

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