Java development can be faster than .NET - one more proof

IT-eye bloged about a competition between students building applications with Java vs .NET.
The results prove again that with the right tool (JDeveloper) and the right framework (Oracle ADF) you can be more productive developing Java applications.

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Another apple and pear comparison. You can only compare language vs. language, framework vs. framework, IDE vs. IDE, so what should've been compared is either PL/SQL vs. .NET or ADF vs. LINQ. Clearly a framework based approach with a suitable 4GL IDE is faster/better than a general purpose programming language, that can surprise no one!

Posted by Casper Bang on June 14, 2006 at 10:04 PM PDT #

Casper, .NET is not a language it is a development platform and as such the comparison to of ADF+Java vs .NET+C# is indeed in place.

Posted by Shay Shmeltzer on June 20, 2006 at 09:20 AM PDT #

I used to mess with websphere back in 2002. I have always been heavier into Microsoft technologies and finally, with .Net, they give us a true development environment and IDE. Don't get me wrong.. I know that it is a Java rip-off, but thank god they did it. Now, my question, statement is... I have been taking some time recently to try and get back into my Java development and holy crap but it's hard to get setup. You may be right, that development in Java, for certain projects, can be faster than .Net, but not if you are starting from scratch. Getting setup in Java is a huge pain. Figuring out the best IDE, finding the Plugins!? you don't need plugins with .Net. Is there an IDE that comes with a ton of pre-loaded Plugins? It really is a pain getting setup? Is there any good like newbie setup examples on getting started with Jdeveloper?

Posted by Tracey on June 24, 2006 at 09:07 AM PDT #

ADF team have used OR/M features (entity objects) and .NET team haven't. What if .NET team picked NHibernate or other mapper? So I think Casper has a point.

Posted by Daniel Melo on June 25, 2006 at 02:39 PM PDT #

Tracey, As I mention in the post - if you use the right IDE and the right framework Java can be as easy as .NET. So try JDeveloper - setting up is just one unzip command. It comes with all the functionality built-in, and with the ADF framework development is very simple. To get you started - follow the tutorial on this page: http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/adf/learnadf.html

Posted by Shay Shmeltzer on June 26, 2006 at 02:50 AM PDT #

Daniel, Nobody stopped the .NET team from using anything. I guess that NHibernate is not a popular solution and that not many .NET developers use it. But beyond that the ease of use of JDeveloper is not just the O/R part its also the other features that make a declarative and visual development experience when working with Java.

Posted by Shay Shmeltzer on June 26, 2006 at 02:52 AM PDT #

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