Is NetBeans disrupting the PHP IDE market?

From Zend forums - voice of a customer:

My company bought 3 3-year licenses for Zend Studio earlier this and up until a few weeks ago, there was nothing else on the market that even came close to meeting our requirements. Then Netbeans released 6.5 with PHP support. Right out of the gate, their PHP and JavaScript support is on the whole, so much better and faster than Zend's product, with so many fewer bugs, that despite the fact that we spent $1000 this year investing in Zend's product, and I personally have spent time with Zend's tech support and developers (good guys, very helpful), I am assisting my team in migrating over to use Netbeans for most of our development. There are a few things that Studio does better, but Netbeans is just a much more mature and easy to use product, even this early in their PHP support (I used RC2 first and it was darn good.)

Hmmm :)

Comments:

Yes..

Have to say similarly for Ruby, ...

The only "bad" thing is that there Eclipse, and how I wish they're together.

Eclipse does PHP (Aptana or DLTK), so does NB.
Eclipse does Ruby, so does NB.
...and on...

Posted by Hendy Irawan on listopad 28, 2008 at 04:32 dop. CET #

NetBeans excellent PHP support was a real surprise for me too. I use Eclipse for Java, never liked Java NetBeans. But PHP NetBeans is a real treat.

Posted by reinhard on listopad 28, 2008 at 11:07 dop. CET #

I've used most of the PHP IDEs out there and have to agree that NetBeans 6.5 sets the bar higher than the others. It's the one I keep returning to and enjoying (been using it since RC2 as well).

Posted by Stuart on listopad 28, 2008 at 08:52 odp. CET #

I do not do PHP development, but Ive been using netbeans for Java and some C++ development for years now. 6.5 has dramatically increased the responsiveness of the UI.

Personally I have switched all new projects into netbeans projects.

Posted by Signal9 on listopad 28, 2008 at 09:01 odp. CET #

Eclipse has been stagnant for years, Netbeans even worse.

If you want a file editor than you have alot more options. I used eclipse and netbeans for years, only to go back to text editor.

Niether of these tools does a damn thing for you unless you like broken plugins.

Seriously drop the IDE war talk. They are both garbage on a day to day basis.

Posted by bob on listopad 29, 2008 at 02:02 dop. CET #

i need to check some comparison between Aptana and netbeans in supporting php,css,jquery

cause i am really thinking of moving to netbeans but i am not sure will it be the right thing to do

Posted by ali on listopad 29, 2008 at 02:28 dop. CET #

I also love Net Beans for PHP development.
Some of the reasons elaborated here http://dreamxtream.wordpress.com/2008/11/23/web-development-ide/

Posted by Saqib on prosinec 01, 2008 at 04:31 dop. CET #

The most important reason for my team not to switch from Eclipse PDT to NetBeans is the absence of a "remove trailing whitespace on save" feature. But it's definately worth a look!

Posted by Bert Slagter on prosinec 01, 2008 at 11:40 dop. CET #

As a Zend license payer for many years I believe I'm entitled to share my opinion on the emergence of netbeans as an Eclipse and Zend Studio killer, at least as far as PHP support is concerned.

This is not a superficial "ide war" as suggested above, but probably more a reflection of the fact that PHP developers have had to endure low quality IDEs for years, so the relief felt now that a decent product, netbeans 6.5, has appeared on the market, is tremendous. Netbeans is far more than just decent though, it is clearly head and shoulders above Zend Studio for Eclipse, you only need to watch the videos or use it for 5 minutes to realize.

The Zend Studio product on the other hand maintained the same bugs in its product for literally years, releasing updates less than once a year, and showing an apparent total lack of interest in responding to the requests of its customers.

Then with the move to Eclipse customers were burdened with an even slower, more bloated and memory hungry app with possibly thousands of unnecessary configuration options and with an odyssey of undertaking required to get debugging working. I'm not surprised, given the context, that there is a lot of emotion being expressed now that a decent product is finally available.

Posted by Demian Turner on prosinec 02, 2008 at 03:07 dop. CET #

@ali, why don't you just try it and see? It's free.

There are decent tutorials on CSS, PHP and JQuery support at

http://www.netbeans.org/kb/

'bob', you have no idea what you're talking about. A text editor, even a good one (vim and textmate spring to mind) doesn't come close to a solid IDE.

Posted by Dick Davies on prosinec 03, 2008 at 07:47 dop. CET #

thanks

Posted by tattoo on prosinec 28, 2008 at 05:18 dop. CET #

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