India JUGs, where are you?

I am visiting India for vacation during December and January. I'll be travelling a lot during the 5 weeks of this trip and will be also available to do presentations at JUGs, universities, companies or just to meet any Java enthusiasts. The sessions I can deliver are in our NetBeans worldtour wiki. I'll visit following cities/regions: Delhi, Agra, Mumbai, Trivandrum, Cochin, Mangalore and Goa. But I might also get to other locations (Sun could sponsor my flight in case you're far away from my route). If you are interested just drop me an e-mail to roman dot strobl at sun dot com. I am sure there must be more Java User Groups in India than just the one in the official JUG listing...

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Hy Roumen,

I think JUGs might be getting out of fashion. There is no active JUG in Romania since everyone uses Java!

An user group usually shows up for emergent, niche technologies. Java is no longer emergent, is well established.

This is why it's almost impossible now to create a new JUG (at least in my case). It would be like creating an user group for TV owners or cellphone enthusiasts. You would have to hold the meeting on a football field :-)

Posted by Emilian Bold on říjen 22, 2007 at 01:19 dop. CEST #

Emilian, sorry but you're wrong. Look at Brazil with it's approx. 40 JUGs or Italy with it's approx. 14 JUGs. There is a strong JUG movement in the world. The fact that you don't have a JUG in Romania means that no strong personality started the JUG... there are more countries like this. The biggest Brazilian JUG has tens of thousands (!) of members... :)

Posted by Roman Strobl on říjen 22, 2007 at 01:32 dop. CEST #

This thing of JUGs is complex (and I'm still making my opinion about them). In Italy there are a lot of JUGs, while in other countries such as France there's only one (AFAIK). I think that probably Roman is right, it's a matter of leadership, but probably there's also a cultural thing. For instance, in Italy all the major towns were separate states in constant reciprocal war until 150 years ago. Now we don't kill each other any longer (with the exception of some football events), but there's a strong "identity" feeling in every town. Which probably explain why most of italian towns have their own JUG.

Talking about the functional perspective, I don't think that \*UGs are only related to the birth and initial spread of a technology. Technologies evolve continuously and \*UGs are useful for facilitating the knowledge about this evolution. I learnt a lot of things attending JUGs (and I hope I also taught something to others). And consulting a lot to many different customers, it's amazing for me to discover how - even in the Internet age - a lot of people don't get many trends (e.g. they don't know that NetBeans 5/6 is a completely new thing, don't know about JavaFX, don't now a lot of frameworks - including Spring! - etc.).

An there's the human part. For instance, I've received a strong push in working on my opensource projects (at the time, I had to resurrect them) since I've started attending JUGs.

Posted by Fabrizio Giudici on říjen 22, 2007 at 01:55 dop. CEST #

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