Tuesday Mar 18, 2008

Doing The Right Thing, or Why Rails is not in OpenSolaris


If you haven't been watching the discussion on webstack-discuss@opensolaris.org, the news is that Rails will not be integrated with OpenSolaris or Nevada.
ie., an installation of SXCE/SXDE/Nevada/Indiana will have Ruby installed, but Rails will not be available by default.

The recommended way to install Rails and other gems is by using the gem command - using the famous utterance "gem install rails --include-dependencies".
And that's it.

I think this is the right position for us to take. I think it's quite a brave one, and one that shows that we are truly working as a community now, at least in my corner of the universe.
Think about it . . . with other OSes drawing users away from Ruby's native packaging, in order to "do it their way" - what would the natural response from an operating system vendor be? To say "Let it be, a good solution already exists in Rubygems", or "hey, we want XYZ library delivered through our mechanism, irrespective of what the problems are"?

Rubygems is the chosen package manager for Ruby, and abiding by that decision helps Ruby users on Solaris - and people get that. We got a a lot of comments from our user community, as well as from the good folk at Twitter about Solaris packaging for Ruby gems in general - and nobody at Sun, after having heard the story, ever said, "you know, Debian has it, BSD has it, so we should do it too".

And that's a brave step to take.

Thanks to all the folk that provided comments, please keep them coming, and I'm proud of the folk at Sun, for working sincerely with the community.

Tuesday Jul 31, 2007

Project Indiana

In case you stopped tracking project Indiana after the initial buzz - here is the OpenSolaris project page for Indiana: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/indiana/

The conversations seem to have started in earnest.

An OpenSolaris binary distro that has the corresponding source will make it way easier for an interested user to try OpenSolaris, and I happen to know a few interested hackers in the waiting list. I've heard Ian Murdock speak on Indiana(at least twice now?), and find myself agreeing enthusiastically with his motivations for Indiana.

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