What's new in the next OpenSolaris release(2008.11)

The Solaris Nevada build 99 has been available for several days now. And it'll be imported into OpenSolaris repository next week or so.

After going through all the necessary paperwork(ARC, export control, OSR etc), Songbird 0.7.0 is finally integrated into b99. That's to say, you'll be able to grab the Songbird package from the repository very soon. Thanks all for the patience. Also thanks for the support from the Songbird community, especially from steve! And it's really glad to see that nightingale project was there as part of the feature spots for OpenSolaris community, also our nice group photo:). Thanks for taking the photo, Jim!

Besides Songbird, a big bunch of great applications including the GNOME 2.24 desktop have been delivered into b99(then 2008.11 release). I'll list some of them here.
1. XChat is the IRC client that I'll build myself every time I reinstall the box. It's really glad to see it's delivered.
2. Cheese. If you have a supported webcam on OpenSolaris, this could be a nice application for you to take pictures and videos.
3. tsclient, a front-end application for rdesktop, vncviewer, wfica and xnest. This is quite helpful for access your desktop remotely, for development or testing purpose.
4. gkrellm, a monitor application to show the system status in real time(CPU, memory, disk, network etc.).
5. brasero, a CD/DVD burning application.
6. transmission, a BT client.
The full list can be found here. Also something like NWAM 0.5, ZFS snapshot, power suspend/resume support(for certain hardware) will also be integrated.

Are these enough for the OpenSolaris desktop? Absolutely not. This is just the beginning. The contrib repository will be the playground for better community participation and users will all benefit from that for sure. The opinions from the OpenSolaris community is also important. What do you want to see in the future OpenSolaris release? I'll list something I want below:
1. The Media solution will be the most important part for the desktop users. It's really glad to have some community efforts in this area. mplayer is available on my desktop built from SFE.
2. aMule, an eMule like application for the eD2k and Kademlia networks. Well, it's popular to download stuff with this at least in China.
3. ftp GUI application. gFTP could be delivered into OpenSolaris and FileZilla could be part of the contrib repository. Also FileFTP(Firefox extension) could also be a way to go.
4. The most popular messenger tool in China -- QQ.
5. PPStream applications for watching TV/sports/movie online.
6. BBS client. QTerm could be a choice.

What do you want then? Feel free to comment here:)

Comments:

I am surprised NetBeans 6.1 wasn't incorporated into it along with at least another window manager. To me, OpenSolaris looks from using the Gnome interface just like any other Linux distro. I would want an interface that made it distinct from other
OSs'.

Posted by Robert J on September 27, 2008 at 01:27 PM CST #

It looks like the next release is going to be a giant leap forward!

MTP support for all those MTP media devices (Samsung etc.) would be good...

As would support for Digital TV dongles (Pinnacle etc.)

Posted by Che Kristo on September 27, 2008 at 01:34 PM CST #

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Posted by helpful on September 27, 2008 at 02:21 PM CST #

more than wanting... tcpdump is expected

Posted by phil on September 27, 2008 at 03:04 PM CST #

Hi,

Codec, Codec, Codec !!!
My REF: http://defect.opensolaris.org/bz/show_bug.cgi?id=1855

Easy Codec like Ubuntu have done is \*this\* most needed thing for the OpenSolaris Desktop experience !

Some other things are;
Fluxbox, VLC and VirtualBox.

Consider putting a official poll on opensolaris.com every 2weeks for new apps and see what is voted for the most.

Regards,
Edward O'Callaghan.

Posted by EdwardOCallaghan on September 27, 2008 at 07:07 PM CST #

I agree with "codec, codec, codec"
I also think that a nice video editing tool would be nice. That would make use of all my ZFSed disks...

Blender works already, how about supporting it as a package?

And hmm.. Orange box? ;-)

Posted by Kristofer on September 27, 2008 at 07:46 PM CST #

Hi Alfred,

Really enjoyed your blog. Please keep up with the good work!

I might want to add another great news in that SCIM is now also available in 2008.11. Contrasting this with the current IIIMF is almost like that b/t day and night. OpenSolaris may finally begin to spread in the great Middle Kingdom!

BTW, I might have been too critical about IIIMF. What's your experience?

Thanks a whole lot!

Posted by W. Wayne Liauh on September 27, 2008 at 09:39 PM CST #

We need the Thomas Habets Unix version of the "arping" utility (see link below):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arping

to be included with the live CD and default install of the next OpenSolaris 2008.11 for x86.

Utilities like ping, arping, snoop / tcpdump, traceroute, nmap, etc. etc. are absolutely essential to have if you're doing any kind of TCP/IP network administration work and most of these network utilities are already included with OpenSolaris EXCEPT for arping. I really want to use OpenSolaris as my main operating system on the job, but it's nearly impossible for me to debug the dozens of IP conflicts that are always happening if I can't use arping to broadcast arp who has packets on the network.

Posted by Robert on September 28, 2008 at 12:21 AM CST #

Emacs 22. I've been surprised it's not available in the opensolaris repos.

Posted by Miles on September 28, 2008 at 07:09 AM CST #

guys, as you might know, to deliver a package to OpenSolaris repository will take a relatively long time. Some paper work need to be done before it happens. I'd hope that the contrib repository could be more aggressive for package integration and it's easier for every one in the community to put in the packages they like to have. And also SFE will be embraced in contrib repository when it's available.

Robert, I can find NetBeans 6.1 packages in http://pkg.opensolaris.org. Are them what you want? As for another window manager, some ongoing efforts could be found: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/xfce/, http://solaris.kde.org/.

Che, thanks for creating bug to track this issue in defect.o.o. And there is a https://pkgbuild.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pkgbuild/spec-files-extra/trunk/SFElibmtp.spec file in SFE and you could build that with CBE to have a try. Songbird supports MTP devices on Windows. Not sure about the plan for OpenSolaris. Not familiar with Digital TV dongles myself. Just got some discussion in the "Appliances" community of OpenSolaris.

phil, tcpdump is also in SFE: https://pkgbuild.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pkgbuild/spec-files-extra/trunk/SFEtcpdump.spec.

Edward, I'd also like to see more Codecs supports. That's what I'd hope to have when contrib repository is available. As I remember, there was some poll in opensolaris.com. But due to the constrains, the most popular/wanted applications can't be delivered. Also hope some simplified process will be applied to contrib. Something like http://popcon.ubuntu.com/ might also be helpful.

Kristofer, you might be interested in what's available here: http://ocean1.ee.duth.gr/SolarisX/. Maybe some of them will be in contrib in the future:)

Wayne, I totally agree with you. Input method is quite important for the Chinese users:) There are a big bunch of popular input methods on Windoz. I've used a little bit of SCIM on Linux, a while ago. And stick with Solaris' default one for a long time. Maybe I've already got use to it, I think it's ok. But SCIM is better recognized by the friends around. So it'll be good to have it.

Robert, tried to grab the arping 2.08 code and build, but failed. libnet.h is used but not available for Solaris. Some efforts need to be taken to port this before we could use it.

Miles, also surprised for not finding it in the repo even though I'm a vi user...

Posted by alfred on September 28, 2008 at 10:36 AM CST #

Kristofer, blender is also available in SFE: https://pkgbuild.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pkgbuild/spec-files-extra/trunk/SFEblender.spec. I built and ran it successfully on my box here with CBE.

Miles, emacs 22.1 is also in SFE: https://pkgbuild.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pkgbuild/spec-files-extra/trunk/SFEemacs.spec.

Yes, SFE is good. It'll be better to have the package directly.

Posted by alfred on September 28, 2008 at 10:41 AM CST #

Alfred - thanks for the info. My apologies for the newbie question (but I am new to OpenSolaris) - what's the easiest way to use SFE on OpenSolaris? I'm currently running build 98. Thanks again.

Posted by Miles on September 28, 2008 at 04:04 PM CST #

Miles, no problem. The instructions to build from source by using spec can be found here: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/jds/contributing/building/.

In short, you need to:
1. Install CBE on your OpenSolaris: http://dlc.sun.com/osol/jds/downloads/cbe/. cbe-1.6.2 is the latest stable release.
2. Check out the SFE source from http://pkgbuild.sourceforge.net/spec-files-extra/.
3. Build from the spec. Usually run the command "pkgtool --download build SFE..." will do all the thing automatically(download the source, build from the source, install to your system). Some directory will be created in your $HOME directory:
bash-3.2$ ls ~/packages/
BUILD PKGMAPS PKGS SOURCES SPECS SPKGS
The package will be in the PKGS directory.

Some development files might be missing in your OpenSolaris. You could run "pfexec pkg search -r $MISSING_FILE" to figure out which package you need to install by hand. BTW, desktop dash discuss at opensolaris dot org could be a helpful mail alias for questions.

Posted by alfred on September 28, 2008 at 06:16 PM CST #

Oh yes.. i just remembered. Jinput would be nice so I can use sharendipidy which was a big announcement a few weeks ago. Synergy and coordination is always nice.

:)

/Kristofer

Posted by Kristofer on September 28, 2008 at 10:36 PM CST #

Alfred: awesome post - really great to see the rocking progress you guys in the desktop group are doing. Keep up the good work! :)

Posted by Glynn Foster on September 29, 2008 at 04:32 AM CST #

Kristofer, Jinput could be an interesting topic for the OpenSolaris games community: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/games. Some OpenSolaris native and wine-based games are discussed there. Synergy can be built from source successfully by using CBE+SFE: https://pkgbuild.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pkgbuild/spec-files-extra/trunk/SFEsynergy.spec.

Posted by alfred on September 29, 2008 at 09:09 AM CST #

"What do you want to see in the future OpenSolaris release?"

How about a uname(1) that returns a Solaris compatible string, for a change?

How about 100% compatibility with Solaris?

How about support for JumpStart(TM) and Flash(TM) technologies?

How about complete documentation for developing IPS packages?

And I'd like to see Postfix MTA integrated, too.

Posted by guest on September 29, 2008 at 10:20 AM CST #

Thanks Alfred...there's no point my whining without filing a defect/rfe ;-)

I think the Songbird folk are working on using libmtp...you have to be patient with these things when you run alternative platforms.

Many thanks for the fantastic work being carried out on the desktop.

Posted by Che Kristo on September 29, 2008 at 11:56 AM CST #

well, attansic l1 driver would be a musthave, coz i cant live without my network ;)

Posted by viktor on September 29, 2008 at 02:06 PM CST #

The only use I see for Solaris for me, is the Integration between zfs and Lustre when available. Till then I won't even test it on virtual machine.

Posted by David Cohen on September 29, 2008 at 02:44 PM CST #

pidgin can QQ

Posted by Andreas on September 29, 2008 at 04:11 PM CST #

It'd be cool if the latest of Compiz-Fusion and its respective plugins could be included. But this is not a major "deal-breaker". What would be really cool though is if Asunder ( http://littlesvr.ca/asunder/ ) and Nexuiz ( http://alientrap.org/nexuiz/ ) were included.

Posted by BlueJayofEvil on September 30, 2008 at 01:39 AM CST #

Hi there. Will it support my intel network card? The previous OpenSolaris didn't.
It is the only one reason I cannot use OpenSolaris now.

Posted by Maxim Derkach on September 30, 2008 at 12:07 PM CST #

I'm new to whole solaris community, maybe i install it on my asus f3ke as primary OS. Anyone has experience with some radical steps? :) what's the status of supporting Atheros wifi cards? I've heard they released their HAL specification or whatever...

Posted by wayne on October 02, 2008 at 08:23 AM CST #

there was a bug in gnome-system-monitor it only showed one cpu in a dual core machine. Did it get fixed? the problem was/is libgtop

Posted by carlos on October 03, 2008 at 05:07 AM CST #

guys, just came back from long vacation for National Holiday in China.

194.158.241.118, not sure how and why you want to change the uname return string. Could you specify? OpenSolaris is the new 6-month release models. Something might be broken for Solaris users/customers(the motif removal due to the redistribution restriction for example). The encumber repository could fix some of the issues(Flash Player). But there isn't 100% compatibility guarantee between OpenSolaris and Solaris as I know. For JumpStart, this might be helpful: http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=266641&#266641. For further information, you could go to the OpenSolaris caiman project: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/caiman/. Here is the document for developing IPS packages: http://opensolaris.org/os/project/pkg/documents/pkgtasks/. It's helpful for me to get started. I'm personally not familiar with postfix. It builds fine on my Solaris Nevada box here though.

viktor, it seems that the attansic l1 driver is still under development: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/view_bug.do?bug_id=6580058.

Andreas, will try that. It seems that the QQ protocol changes frequently.

BlueJayofEvil, Asunder needs some extra porting efforts for Solaris to build as I can see. And many of its dependencies aren't in OpenSolaris. I'd guess it might be in the contrib repository in the future. Nexuiz could be a good topic for the OpenSolaris game community: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/games/.

Maxim, what's your network card? Maybe you could get some help from here: http://homepage2.nifty.com/mrym3/taiyodo/eng/, to build the driver from source(actually I'm with Broadcom card and build that myself here), or the device driver community: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/device_drivers/, or the laptop community: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/.

wayne, enjoy OpenSolaris on your laptop. There is a big bunch channel in the OpenSolaris community that you can get help. The Atheros card is in the list as I can see: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/wireless/. I'd guess that you just need to follow the instruction and it's free to go: http://opensolaris.org/os/community/laptop/wireless/ath/.

carlos, just tried gnome-system-monitor on my Nevada box with b98. It works fine for my dual-core. It could be fixed in the latest GNOME 2.24. Could you verify on your box? If it insists, could you log a bug in defect.opensolaris.org? Thanks.

Posted by alfred on October 06, 2008 at 08:36 AM CST #

"The Solaris Nevada build 99 has been available for several days now. And it'll be imported into OpenSolaris repository next week or so."

Hi; thanks for the good work on OpenSolaris!

I'm just mainly wondering if there's an update on a 2008.11 preview release integrated around B99; it has been 2 weeks since B99 has been out and I'm starting to think that perhaps there will be no such 2008.11 preview release since it has not appeared already whereas the past releases were made at very similar release dates as Nevada B98, B97, et. al.

Alternatively, I imagine that Nevada B100 must be almost ready within a day or two if it is to follow a 2-week schedule after Nevada B99. Do you know if a B100 based OS 2008.11 preview release will occur, and, if so, when it is likely to be available, i.e. 1-3 days, 1 week+, ...?

As for requested packages I can't say very specifically which ones are / are not present (or very portable / readily packaged) off the top of my head, but here are a few that I'd certainly appreciate seeing -- some may already be supported, others may have existing equivalents I don't know about, and others may be impossible, but it's a wish list...

Tracker / Strigi / Beagle / et. al. (local filesystem search / indexing engine server / client / GUIs)
Googling seems to show promise on Tracker / MONO / Beagle, so if those are all there / working it's great!

7-Zip (archiver)
star (extended tar supporting ACLs, extended attribite metadata, et. al. -- maybe the default tar has caught up closer to star's features by now; I don't know)

netcat
netpipes

SQUID
Privoxy

Tcpdump (for sure)
Wireshark
nmap

OSSEC (host based intrusion detection system)
Snort (network based intrusion detection system)

wget
curl

TrueCrypt
KeePassX
GNUPG / GPG (messaging confidentiality / authentication -- probably already exists)

Image processing / conversion / management:
GIMP
RawStudio
UFRAW
ImageMagick
F-SPOT (image catalogging / browsing)
ResourceSpace (image catalogging / browsing / digital asset management)
DigiKam (image catalogging / browsing / downloading)
SANE et. al. (image scanner tools)
ArgyllCMS (color management system for image processing)
LittleCMS (color management system for image processing)
PhotoPrint (helps format photos for printing www.blackfiveservices.co.uk/photoprint.shtml)

MONO (open source .NET runtime and associated dev. tools)
Moonlight (open source silverlight)

Mathematics / analysis / visualization:
Octave (mathematical scripting)
Pari/GP (mathematical scripting)
SAGE (mathematics system)
SciLab (mathematics system)
R (statistical mathematics language)
SunDials and related packages (mathematics)
PETSC (mathematics)
TRILINOS (mathematics)
GSL GNU Scientific Library
GMP GNU Multi-Precision Library
MPFR floating point multi-precision library
ATLAS (linear algebra / mathematics)
BLAS (mathematics)
LAPACK (mathematics)
SCALAPACK (mathematics)
ARPACK (mathematics)
SuiteSparse (mathematics)
FFTW (mathematics)
MPICH / MPICH2 (parallel processing tools)
Boost libraries (C++ utility libraries, common to many programs)
AMD ACML / Intel MKL optimized math libraries -- would make a good SFE or similar to download / build / install them.
OpenDX (data visualization)
VTK (data visualization)

CAD:
OpenCascade (CAD framework)
SALOME (CAD framework)
QCAD (CAD program)
BRL-CAD (CAD program)

VOIP:
ASTERISK
EKIGA
Twinkle
MiniSIP
Kphone

Instant Messaging:
PIDGIN
aMSN

LMSENSORS / whatever similar tools may exist -- hardware sensor monitoring, CPU/GPU/MB temperatures, fan speeds, voltages, et. al. -- good news about getting GKRELLM installed. I hope/assume that may mean that there's a good back-end LM-SENSORS or similar sensor reading library also so it can pick up a wide variety of hardware sensors' values.

Something to query/present the 'SMART' data (reliability / performance metrics) from hard discs would be especially welcome as well. Perhaps there's a way to do it in GKRELLM / LM-SENSORS or something.

Subversion (source code management tools -- makes it easier to at least get / build non-included programs)
Mercurial (source code management tools -- makes it easier to at least get / build non-included programs)
ANT (source code management tools -- makes it easier to at least get / build non-included programs)

partimage

Qmail (DJB's MTA mail server)
Tinydns (DJB's lightweight BIND replacement or local cacheing server)

Codecs, conversion utilities: definitely a big plus; LAME, OGG Vorbis / Theora, Dirac, x264, ffmpeg, sox, speex, gsm, celp, anything possible please!
audacity, vlc, rhythmbox, helixplayer, LAME, SOX, et. al. all good.

emacs -- yes, another vote for the most recent flavor of the month version for sure, it is almost the first thing I install / use on a system!

pdftk, xpdf, evince, okular, html2ps, html2pdf, pdf2txt, pdf2html, pdfoo, libpoppler, ps2pdf, ghostscript, etc. etc. bascially any / all document format conversion and viewing options are always very useful to have!

current postgres, mysql versions

current netbeans, JRE, JDK, J2EE, ...versions

One of the better flavors of CLISP (used by a lot of other packages / tools)
One of the better flavors of OCAML (also used by a lot of other packages / tools)

OpenAFS support would be a wonderful addition to the existing NFS / CIFS / SMB.

Other desiderata...

More comprehensive CIFS support (if still needed) whether workgroup (working now?) or domain controller, domain master browser role (working now?), file sharing, printer sharing, network browsing (needs NETBIOS? needs distinct master browser? needs external domain controller / WINS server / ...? , LLTP compatibility (can we even see Vista hosts in a TCP browse without it?), et. al. IIRC some of those modes / functions were said somewhere to not quite be functioning yet in the latest OS release builds; maybe I'm out of date; IDK.

IPTABLES? I don't know if a port is even possible given the networking design in the kernel, but I only mention it since a certain amount of 3rd party software uses manipulation of IPTABLEs rule sets / config files to assist in its functioning and any degree of compatibility would help with the portability of such applications (even slight work-alike wrappers that converted the file format or command request into an ipfilter equivalent would be a good step). So something like a MTA or NIDS or Web server could do IP rule based greylisting / blacklisting dynamically or whatever other kinds of common uses there are.

a port of FUSE or some similar technology to allow mounting of NTFS, EXT2, EXT3 filesystems would be greatly appreciated. I'm not sure what the best port / package is to do this, but AFAIK there are a few open source options to build on / consider using.

Utilities to able to mount partition images of various formats easily whether they're stored in image files (e.g. like you'd use a .VHD or whatever containing virtual machine filesystem partitions) or stored on real disc slices et. al. Obviously this is already possible with e.g. .ISO images, but facilitating it with a GUI tool and back end support from the common mounting / formatting / fscking utilities and extending it to cover the common partition file formats for VirtualBox, VMWARE, VirtualPC, HyperV, and formats like NTFS, EXT2, EXT3, EXT4, ISO, UDF, FAT32, et. al. would be convenient / nice. Oh yes, also being able to easily mkfs / format / fsck / ... such images of course in a unified manner would be nice. Basically 'anywhere' you'd use a disk slice / partition reference, enable (simply) the use of a file or iSCSI target (or whatever) containing the image instead.

..tracking closely the most recently evolved versions of Firefox / Thunderbird / GCC / Flash / Virtualbox / GNOME / OpenOffice 3.x / pidgin / GIMP / NVIDIA drivers/ ... basically all the major commonly used internet/desktop/driver packages that get frequent upstream version updates which are especially relevant to install ASAP for either bug fixes / security or features. If it would take weeks/months to get significant package version updates for core functionality / security related packages synced to an Solaris release then it becomes very tempting to just remove the distributed version and install manually from the upstream package's new release of the day.

NVIDIA CUDA would be greatly appreciated if it worked well in practice. AFAIK they say it is not (yet?) "supported" on \*-solaris-\* in any flavor that I know of. That isn't the same thing as saying that it may not work well in practice (or be able to be ported by the community) even if it isn't one of their specifically tested / supported platforms. However in this case I've heard of zero people doing CUDA under \*-solaris-\* and have seen several requests for it, so I suspect that in fact it just doesn't work at all whatever one tries to do. It is a shame to see such a major development / high performance computing feature as this not available on such a nice platform as \*-solaris-\* even when NVIDIA binary driver supoort is included for various solaris flavors out of the box, and solaris would make such a good high performance / GPU computing platform given its stability and other benefits. I can't imagine that it'd be much work to get it working since the binary GPU driver already is supported / integrated / frequently updated (every few months) by NVIDIA. Obviously this isn't under the control of any solaris developers since it is NVIDIA's choice, though I suspect additional indications of end user and development team interest / desire would go a long way in persuading them to improve the support for CUDA on Solaris sooner rather than later / never.
Also providing any needed kernel functions / support to enable the driver to be more fully functional sometimes helps.

FGLRX (ATI GPU driver) and various newer / upcomong open source Radeon GPU device drivers (e.g. for R6xx R7xx series GPUs) would be highly desirable. Similar to CUDA having the CAL/BROOK+ SDK supported would be wonderful to see happen. Obviously a great shame that it's not supported under SOLARIS, but at least the open source drivers are improving for LINUX anyway and with the next generation of opened specifications (including the R7xx series) an open source 2D/3D driver should be possible for most common ATI/AMD GPUs. This would be a good thing to see integrated ASAP to any extent(s) possible.

Persuading the folks at Google to not forget about Solaris for things like Google Earth, Picasa, et. al. would be nice lacking possible / comparable or compatible open source options (obviously more of a problem for Gearth than Picasa).

Posted by C. on October 14, 2008 at 11:35 AM CST #

The package manager made OS2008.05 unusable for me. It is one thing being dead slow on a first release, but quite another that updating single packages (incl. dependencies) would corrupt the system so it would no longer boot. Were the dependencies not properly checked?
Another thing is the size of update downloads, why is the download of oo.org via the package manager multiple time larger than a .tar.gz download of the website. I read somewhere that packages are not zipped?
I would like to get more enjoyment out of opensolaris, but as long package management is not fixed it is a no go for me.
In my opinion Ubuntu has a fantastic package manager superior to those in fedora and suse.

Posted by ALEX on October 21, 2008 at 08:31 PM CST #

I want to see properly integrated CUPS support like in Ubuntu. In Ubuntu I can add a CUPS printer from the printers manager, and in all applications I can bring up a printer properties dialog that shows all of the settings for my printer. In Solaris the only way to configure and manage CUPS printers is through a web interface.

I looked at this page:
http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/desktop/testing/new-app/UbuntuParity/

and am really excited to see: avant-window-navigator, brasero, dialog, filezilla, findutils, songbird, tsclient, xsane, cheese. Now, I hope they are all delivered since I don't see them on pkg.opensolaris.org yet. That's probably because 2008 11 is not released yet.

Posted by Ryan de Laplante on November 16, 2008 at 04:17 AM CST #

C., thanks for writing this long list of requests. Some of them are already in OpenSolaris, some are in progress, some might depend on the setup of the contrib repository. I can't cover all of them. I can only say that they'll be available somewhere with community participation.

ALEX, some improvement for package manager have been made for OpenSolaris 2008.11. It's usable from my perspective. If mirrors can be setup in different geographic locations, I'd hope the download speed can be faster. As for the specific problem, I'd suggest to go to pkg-discuss@opensolaris.org for help.

Ryan, the printer driver is a problem for CUPS' integration as I know. A new printer manager has been delivered into OpenSolaris 2008.11. Guess you might want to have a try. From http://pkg.opensolaris.org/status, you can find that avant-window-navigator, brasero, dialog, songbird, tsclient, xsane, cheese have been integrated. And they work well on my OpenSolaris 2008.11 RC1 box. Please stay tune, the 2008.11 is coming soon.

Posted by alfred on November 16, 2008 at 07:46 AM CST #

Thanks for the link, I'm also happy to see that they have integrated OpenOffice 3.0 instead of the older version. I don't like installing apps using binary installers, I prefer using the package manager.

FileZilla was at the top of my list of must-haves because I need a good FTP client for work, I've been using FileZilla on Windows and Linux, and there doesn't seem to be a graphical one in OpenSolaris yet. Hopefully that gets added real soon.

As for findutils not available yet, I guess I will just have to spend some time learning how to use whatever OpenSolaris currently has. Probably "find"?

Do you know why Adobe maintains Flash for Solaris? I noticed they are working on Flash 10 for Solaris and figured Sun must be paying them to do that. Whatever the reason I'm really glad Flash is available in OpenSolaris because it is a must.

And for the new printers manager, I looked at it once booting from RC1 live cd and didn't think I was able to add a CUPS printer but I didn't spend much time on it. I'll have to look at it again.

Posted by Ryan de Laplante on November 16, 2008 at 04:56 PM CST #

Ryan, findutils is on the way to the next release as I know.

FileZilla has some security concern to get integrated as it has a private copy of Putty code. Someone might upload the package when contrib repository is ready. Or you could build it from scratch by using CBE and SFE (https://pkgbuild.svn.sourceforge.net/svnroot/pkgbuild/spec-files-extra/trunk/SFEfilezilla.spec). I built it on OpenSolaris 2008.11 rc1 and it works pretty good.

There are some cooperation between Adobe and Sun. Some engineers at Sun are working on the porting and maintenance of Flash on OpenSolaris. From my perspective, Flash makes the web content much richer, however, it also one of the reasons to slow down web browsing experiences. Anyway, I'm also glad that it's available on OpenSolaris. Hope the Adobe Reader for x86 will be coming soon.

Posted by alfred on November 17, 2008 at 04:48 AM CST #

Arping should work on Solaris. It does when I compile it. You just need libpcap and libnet 1.1.x (1.0.x for arping 1.x (deprecated)) and it should compile fine.

Works for me on Solaris.

// author of Arping

Posted by Thomas Habets on February 06, 2009 at 07:44 AM CST #

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