Oracle Develop Unconference?

Some of you have no doubt attended, or at least are aware of, the Oracle OpenWorld Unconference, which will occur at the October show for the third year running.

It is my belief that the largest pool of presenters and participants resides in the Developer population - Apps-inebriated Enterprise 2.0 types notwithstanding. This theory holds up when you look at the numbers; typically Unconf sessions involving dev-related topics have been much larger draws.

So, I'd like to take a straw poll about your preferences regarding the following:

  1. Should the official Unconference stay where it is, next to the OTN Lounge in Moscone West (four-day duration)?

  2. Should the official Unconference move entirely to the site of Oracle Develop (which may be the Marriott or the Hilton) - two-day duration?

  3. Should the official Unconference stay where it is, and a new "Oracle Develop Unconference" be spawned at the site of Oracle Develop, wherever that it is (two-day duration)? Or would this be too confusing?

Let's hear it!


first is good, IMO last is pretty confusing -M

Posted by Matthias Wessendorf on May 18, 2009 at 02:41 AM PDT #

I'd vote for 3 but, accepting it's pretty confusing and might reduce numbers, 1 is probably best. Why 3? Because I certainly felt that as those who signed up to present (rapidly, too!) were primarily from the Oracle Mix/2.0/Dev/whatever ... community (and no cynical tone intended, in case it came out that way), I hesitated to stick my name up myself. i.e. There might be people who could give fun and technical presentations that aren't as closely aligned with OTN/Mix etc as developers are. I think the location is fine, but I think the publicity could be improved. Not sure how though - not my strength.

Posted by Doug Burns on May 18, 2009 at 03:48 AM PDT #

I was an Oracle Develop only attendee last year, but I certainly visited Moscone West often enough that the location wasn't horribly inconvenient. However, on a sunny morning, certain spots in the rooms were very uncomfortable. So I wouldn't mind at all if the location was moved to Oracle Develop's site. However, I'd rather it stay where it is than split into two separate Unconferences.

Posted by John Flack on May 18, 2009 at 04:36 AM PDT #

I know you want a simple 1 or 2 or 3 answer, but you get this instead ;-) I see the following 2 potential problems with the Unconference: 1) Directly Moscone related: It continues to be out-of-the-way from the main streams, and is losing the opportunity for through traffic and to be apart of the bigger picture, regardless of the great efforts by the OTN team to make it otherwise. 2) The sessions aren't in the main online schedule I think number 2 is the more important one and I'll explain why. Personally I'd like to see the Unconference moved to the OD, but I'm not sure the Moscone location is the main problem. Given our (your, mine, OTN etc) efforts last year to advertise the JDev ADF Methodology Group Unconference session, and the amount of advertising we got out there in many forums (blogs, Ora Mag, the OTN newsletters etc), the numbers were still very low. This leaves me to believe either: a) The topic wasn't interesting (probably true, my ego is of course bruised) b) The majority of the crowd don't find out about sessions from the marketing collateral Let's put option "a" aside because this is a general issue of all OOW sessions regardless of being a "real" schedule session or an Unconference session. This leaves trying to find out how the majority-crowd finds out about sessions. I suspect it's by #2, via the online schedule. If this is true this means you have a catch 22 because the Unconference is meant to be "off-schedule" but that's where the delegates find out about sessions. There are a number of solutions to this I suspect, potentially taking more than a 1 or 2 year effort to make it work. 2 suggestions I'd make which are both experiments for this year: 1) Seed some "key" Unconference sessions (read: will attract numbers) in the schedule, and ask the speakers to advertise-advertise-advertise the rest of the Unconference events 2) And as per your question "should the Unconference be in the Oracle Develop area", locate these seeded Key sessions there, but leave the rest of the Unconference at the Moscone for now. Can I make 1 other suggestion, if you think OD draws the most people to the Unconference, print a whole bunch of Unconference business cards with 1 side showing how to locate it + a URL, and the other with something to catch the reader's eye, then put them on *all* of the seats at the OD day 1 and day2. Good luck! I look forward to participating again this year. Cheers, CM.

Posted by Chris Muir on May 18, 2009 at 11:23 AM PDT #

>> This leaves trying to find out how the majority-crowd finds out about sessions. I suspect it's by #2, via the online schedule. I agree. I also think this is why the 'Meet the ACEs' thing wasn't more popular. If you didn't happen to see the signs or see it online, then you might not know it was going on, which led to it becoming a ACEs-meet-other-ACEs thing. Which is no bad thing, but perhaps not what was intended.

Posted by Doug Burns on May 19, 2009 at 09:10 PM PDT #

I probably already had made a huge difference if there was something outside or in Moscone like a clear, for all to be seen, "billboard" kind of thingy that had the info about the unconference sessions and/or the "meet the ace's" info on it.

Posted by Marco Gralike on May 21, 2009 at 04:57 AM PDT #

I think the location isn't that important, I think it's more important to include the sessions into the Session Builder so that people can add it to there schedule and have a look what is planned. But that shouldn't reduce the flexibility that someone can queue in a presentation for next day.

Posted by Patrick Wolf on May 31, 2009 at 05:32 AM PDT #

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