Fixing, Fixing and Fixing Again

I'm writing this post mainly to answer question what we (NetBeans developers) are working on and why I don't write post here such often as before. The answer is easy, lack of time. From autumn we are trying to stabilize the IDE and fixing as many problems as possible.

Now there is the last week before code freeze of NetBeans 7.0 . From the next week we can fix only serious issues and release stoppers. I hope that there will not be many release candidates and that we could developed new features and enhancements soon.  

My colleague Christopher wrote on his blog "PHP and Oracle: Christopher Jones" a post Profiling NetBeans 7.0 Beta 2 and Reporting Problems, where he write up how can every one help.

I'm sure that I will not be able to resolve all bugs and issues that are filled against the PHP support, but I hope that you, PHP developers, will be satisfied with NetBeans 7.0. The number of developers using NetBeans PHP support is still growing and I hope that it will be in future as well.

When you look at NetBeans Community Statistics,  you can find that 25% of NetBeans users work with a PHP project in NetBeans 6.9. This is not bad. It means that the PHP support is the third most used support in NetBeans. You can see it in the chart bellow, which shows what percentage of users is using individual project types. It includes only project types that has bigger usage than 3%. 

In NetBeans 6.5 (the first release with PHP support) there were 11% of users that worked with a PHP project, in NetBeans 6.7 there were 17% and in NetBeans 6.8 there were 18% . These numbers are an evidence that the community along PHP support in NetBeans is growing and I hope that it will still grow in the future.

Comments:

Netbeans for PHP is brilliant. Thank you for your hard work! :)

Posted by James Dempster on March 03, 2011 at 07:12 AM CET #

Thank you for your post. Can't wait for 7.0

Posted by Tom on March 03, 2011 at 07:17 AM CET #

Thanks for your work - Netbeans for PHP is a great tool I don´t want to be without anymore !

Posted by Titus Grothaus on March 03, 2011 at 08:36 AM CET #

It's no surprise that the PHP usage with NetBeans is increasing -- in my opinion, it is the best solution right now for PHP development! I'm having a blast using it on Ubuntu.

Posted by Michael Butler on March 03, 2011 at 08:57 AM CET #

how about providing better support for Caucho's Quercus in Netbeans?

Quercus is a java implementation of PHP, with the ability to go beyond by allowing PHP to access java functionality as well.

So far, for my purposes, Quercus seems to run quite well on top of glassfish, so there's quite a nice easy feel about it thanks to the nice support for Glassfish.

the annoying thing currently is that Netbeans thinks that some Quercus specific extension syntax is invalid, and so the entire project gets the error flags.

Posted by Peter Belbin on March 03, 2011 at 09:22 AM CET #

Netbeans 6.9 is great, I'm only missing a UI designer for PHP forms as in RadPHP from Embarcadero.

Posted by Luca on March 03, 2011 at 09:26 AM CET #

It's no surprise to see that Netbeans is growing among PHP community, even v6.9 has almost every feature that any PHP developer would need, especially when compared to the competitors in the market...

The only major problem for me is xdebug which is performing awful especially in windows... Oh and some little bugs which probably you're working on right now :)

Posted by M.Ozan Hazer on March 03, 2011 at 10:34 AM CET #

NetBeans PHP support is indeed great and your efforts are really appreciated!

I must admit that Luca has a point about the UI designer though... would be nice to get a decent HTML 5 compliant UI designer. Though far down the list of todo's!

Posted by Martijn on March 03, 2011 at 11:50 AM CET #

Great work! I hope that you will manage to fix namespaces issues. :)

Posted by Goran Miskovic on March 03, 2011 at 01:56 PM CET #

Netbeans support is great, it's my daily work tool.

Posted by Arian Maykon de Araújo Diógenes on March 03, 2011 at 02:54 PM CET #

Gentlemen, thanks! I have learned so much using your tool. Keep up and keep on.

Posted by William Rouse on March 03, 2011 at 05:29 PM CET #

Just one correction - the data and graph that were taken from the statistics site: http://statistics.netbeans.org/analytics/ does not represent "percentage of users is using individual project types". This particular statistic is very hard to interpret correctly.

Still, that does not change the fact that NetBeans PHP support is very popular and the number of users using it is growing very rapidly.

Posted by Petr Jiricka on March 04, 2011 at 02:35 AM CET #

I had been a user of NuSpehere's PHPed for a long time and it was the best IDE available (btter even than Zend's product). However, I finally got sick and tired of Windows and dumped it in favor of Ubuntu, where I discovered NetBeans.
I have been using NetBeans for over two years now (for PHP development). I love it and wouldn't use any other IDE now.
I still try other IDE's once in a while like Eclipse PDT but found it runs slow on my machine and it is nowhere near as intuitive to use. A few of my peers have recently switched from Eclipse to NetBeans so I hope that trend continues. A very good marketing tactic from NetBeans to allow Eclipse users to import their shortcuts :)

Posted by John Haywood on March 04, 2011 at 03:57 AM CET #

I also can't live without Netbeans as development IDE for PHP.
Thank you, guys, for your great support and commitment!

Posted by Christian on March 04, 2011 at 04:52 AM CET #

Thanks for your awesome work!
This is the currently best IDE worldwide!

Posted by David on March 04, 2011 at 04:54 AM CET #

Netbeans for php is brilliant. Most awesome IDE for php, that i ever seen. Thank you!

Posted by idere on March 04, 2011 at 05:00 AM CET #

Yeah, NetBeans + PHP is so great. Muuch better than PDT (for example)

Posted by kurtextrem on March 04, 2011 at 05:01 AM CET #

I've been using it since v6.7 in all platforms (Windows, Linux and OS X)
and I love it.
Keep on the good work you´ve been doing!

Cheers

Posted by Hector Carcedo on March 04, 2011 at 05:02 AM CET #

My team uses NetBeans + PHP for more than 2 years. I find it the best IDE for PHP out there. We use it with a project with about 2 Million lines of code and it works great ( most of the times :) )

Keep up the good work!

Posted by Paulo Azevedo on March 04, 2011 at 05:05 AM CET #

I would like to thank all Netbeans PHP developers for this wonderful software. It is the best PHP IDE i've worked with!

Posted by Kristaps on March 04, 2011 at 05:15 AM CET #

I already convinced two whole companies to switch from PDT to NetBeans.
But now I'm concerned about Oracle's strategy when it comes to Netbeans and PHP-support. A clear "yes" from Oracle to PHP would be awesome.

Right now there is no real alternative to NetBeans for PHP. I believe that PDT is suffering from the fact, that Zend is more competing with than contributing to Open Source projects as they keep all the good things with Zend Studio.

Others try to extend PDT, but it lacks lots of features and auto-completion is slow and a pain in the ass. There may be some others but for all I've seen so far, NetBeans is my number one choice for PHP - even in the paid sector. Not exclusively, but also because the end-user support and tight bounds towards the user-community are awesome.

So: great job people. Keep it up!

Posted by Tom on March 04, 2011 at 06:42 AM CET #

I already convinced two whole companies to switch from PDT to NetBeans.
But now I'm concerned about Oracle's strategy when it comes to Netbeans and PHP-support. A clear "yes" from Oracle to PHP would be awesome.

Right now there is no real alternative to NetBeans for PHP. I believe that PDT is suffering from the fact, that Zend is more competing with than contributing to Open Source projects - in my eyes - as they keep all the good things with Zend Studio.

Others try to extend PDT, but it lacks lots of features and auto-completion is slow and a real pain. There may be some others but for all I've seen so far, NetBeans is my number one choice for PHP - even in the paid sector. Not exclusively, but also because the end-user support and tight bounds towards the user-community are awesome.

So: great job people. Keep it up!

Posted by Tom on March 04, 2011 at 06:44 AM CET #

I love netbeans for PHP, & JAVA. started out with eclipse, but netbeans code completion is so much faster and better.

Posted by Craig on March 04, 2011 at 06:54 AM CET #

Netbeans 7 is the best PHP editor I have ever used. Hands down.

Posted by Michael Taggart on March 04, 2011 at 09:14 AM CET #

Netbeans has been an amazing tool for me, when developing PHP. Thanks a lot for all the great work you have put in to it!

Posted by Andre Eide on March 05, 2011 at 03:58 AM CET #

Best PHP IDE I could find on open platforms (Ubuntu).

Posted by Reuben on March 05, 2011 at 05:37 PM CET #

Best IDE for PHP!

Posted by Caedmon on March 05, 2011 at 06:13 PM CET #

Netbeans for PHP es el mejor IDE que he utilizado, Best PHP IDE in the world!!!

Posted by Piero Recchia on March 05, 2011 at 09:16 PM CET #

Netbeans ifs the best!

My wish is that the XDebug issues will be resolve in 7.0 and that a embedded web server with php and xdebug pre-configured will be added sometime soon

Posted by php/ajax on March 06, 2011 at 10:18 PM CET #

Autocomplete in Eclipse PDT is slow? Really? You can`t try last version...

Eclipse PDT in version 3.6 is mooore quicker then Netbeans! Autocomplete works immediately, there is no scanning which blocks your work after startup.

Yes, Netbeans is wonderful IDE for PHP, but there are some features which I missing.

1) Outline (CTRL+O)
2) Bad support for Bugzilla (no task list like Mylyn)
3) Better navigation (Open Method, Open Type, Open Resource)
4) Default encoding and line delimiter, change this options in existing file, ...)
5) Markers (list of errors and warnings)

Posted by Matej Szendi on March 07, 2011 at 12:34 AM CET #

De gustibus non est disputandum. [1]

Slow and fast are relative terms. If I am on a way out to grab a bite, code completion is slow. However, if I am going to meet my girlfriend, dam code completion is so f\*\*\*\* slow. Right? ;)

It might sound strange, but my main problem with Eclipse is it's name: Nomen est omen. I fancy sunshine [2] over eclipse.

@Matej: I like your ideas. I will search Bugzilla [3] and vote for suggested enhancements.

[1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/de_gustibus_non_est_disputandum
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S7ZiC80Ilg&feature=related
[3] http://netbeans.org/community/issues.html

Posted by schkovich on March 07, 2011 at 01:18 AM CET #

A improved UML object planing and creation would boost the php usage even more.

Posted by Daniel on March 08, 2011 at 12:23 AM CET #

Michael Taggart +1

Posted by HanackaKyselka on March 10, 2011 at 04:35 AM CET #

Just wanted to voice my support for a superb project. Not only is NetBeans the best IDE for PHP available at the moment, but it's FREE. What more could anyone possibly want.

I've spent a fair bit of time trying out a number of different IDE's, including Zend Studio and without any doubt NetBeans is by far the most impressive. I convinced my workplace to give NetBeans a shot about a year ago, they loved it as much as I did and moved over from Aptana, Eclipse and Zend - NetBeans is now the IDE used by all our developers. Keep up the good work.

Posted by Adam on March 10, 2011 at 05:41 AM CET #

ontemporáneos del siniestro, poseen la mayor autoridad. De los mismos obtenemos que no solo es siquiera se encontraba en Roma al momento de la tragedia, ya que estaba en la ciudad de Antium. Así mismo, y en contraste con la leyenda popular, según

Posted by devlet hastaneleri on March 17, 2011 at 10:01 AM CET #

did and moved over from Aptana, Eclipse and Zend - NetBeans is now the IDE used by all our developers. Keep up the good work.

Posted by sifali bitkiler on March 30, 2011 at 03:22 AM CEST #

I wonder, if anyone sees the rise of the JavaScript. There are big pure and hybrid javascript applications created, and NetBeans is currently the best (available) choise for them.

But, i cannot say, i am 100% happy with NetBeans. Numerous small bugs, complete lack of any browser (or external engine, like V8 or Rhino) integration, no profiling, crippled refactoring - all this makes me sad. Also, no built-in JSlint, and sometimes NB is not able to comprehend complex syntax correctly.

For people, who write PHP, i would recommend JetBrains PhpStorm, though - its lighter than NB, but you have to pay 100$ for license.

Aptana is mess, Eclipse and Zend are utter crap.

Posted by Constantine on March 31, 2011 at 11:09 AM CEST #

everencia y junta las dos manos agarrandose entre

Posted by dogal tas on April 02, 2011 at 04:02 AM CEST #

as I did and moved over from Aptana, Eclipse and Zend - NetBeans is now the IDE used by all our developers. Keep up the good work.

Posted by nakliye on April 02, 2011 at 04:02 AM CEST #

A while back I was switching back and forth from NetBeans and I finally adopted it as my main IDE as well as for the other PHP/Drupal developers in my company. It's a great tool and we're grateful for your hard work.

Posted by Jamil Daglees on April 20, 2011 at 03:38 AM CEST #

Netbeans is making a really good job! I use the Netbeans-PHP Edition for my next project: automated Unit Testing, Code Coverage Analysis, ... perfect. I don't know if something like this is possible, but ... ... having an analysis tool, which can tell me the "minimum" PHP Version for a project could be very helpful. What do you think about that?

Posted by guest on May 11, 2011 at 04:51 PM CEST #

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