NetBeans Big IDE - all in one

I installed NetBeans together with all the packs today. The directory size is 386.685.966
I used latest 5.5 builds of NetBeans, Mobility Pack, Profiler, Enterprise Pack, Visual Web Pack and C/C++ Development Pack. In this configuration I can create application for Java SE, Java EE, Java ME and even some C/C++ (I didn't use my C++ programming skills for long time) but I don't have the c/c++ compilers(yet).

Look at the screenshot. Can you guees what document is coming from what pack?

I'm completelly lost with all the functionality, so many features... Roumen, I need more short easy to understand demos! How can I use it all together? Uff, there is still something new to try for next days... I hope that I'll find a minute to try it out in next years...


UPDATE: there were some questions about schedule for Visual Web Pack... Why I didn't say any date when it will be publicly available? There are two reasons why I didn't say it. 1, their schedule is pretty tought therefore it can slip easily. 2, I don't know if the date is public :( Anyway - you can expect a beta version of this Visual Web Pack in October and final version till end of the year.


Download:
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Did somebody noticed what pack I didn't mention? It isn't in the list above...
Comments:

You mentioned the Visual Web Pack, is it available somewhere? If so, can you post a link here?

Posted by Manfred Riem on September 21, 2006 at 02:22 PM CEST #

It isn't available yet. You have to wait a few more weeks...

Posted by Lukas on September 21, 2006 at 02:27 PM CEST #

Too bad the rest of us can't install all of those packs...

<rant>
For a company that claims to be so transparent, I am constantly amazed at how no one can provide any kind of estimate on when new versions of Creator (or Visual Web Pack) will be available. It is not like this is a super secret project that no one is supposed to know about. I think everyone is getting a bit tired of hearing the usual answer of "soon." After all, it was announced in May that it would be open sourced "soon." I’m not asking for an exact date set in stone, but it would be nice to hear "we are trying to the end of October" or something.
</rant>

Posted by Joe on September 21, 2006 at 04:28 PM CEST #

Sun has to balance transparency and setting expectations. The latest I heard was before the end of 2006 for the Visual Web Pack (pictured in Lukas' snapshot, top right).

Posted by Alexis MP on September 22, 2006 at 12:48 AM CEST #

Joe, I updated the post with all the informations that I can share (maybe even more ;))

From my experience with opensourcing of Mobility Pack the process sometimes get stuck in the most unexpected part e.g. licencing...

Posted by Lukas on September 22, 2006 at 04:13 AM CEST #

Hi Joe, Visual Web Pack will most probably be available during October 2006 as technical preview. The exact date depends on the quality - as you can imagine moving such large pieces of functionality from one IDE to another is not easy. Based on the discussion we had yesterday it is possible that the technical preview of Visual Web Pack will be synced together with the rest of the 5.5 release, so that we release everything at one day. This date should be the end of October, but I can't guarantee it won't slip. The reason why noone can't give you an exact date is that there is a lot of variables which may change this date. Transparent enough? :)

Posted by Roumen on September 22, 2006 at 04:36 AM CEST #

More importantly for me is when the MobPack licensing is all done and taken care of. I'm still waiting for the NB 6 M3 release.

Iwan

Posted by Iwan on September 25, 2006 at 03:14 AM CEST #

The licencing is in progress. I don't know what takes so looong.

Wrong news is that we don't have the licence yet therefore we(MobPack) will skip the M3. I HOPE and I'm pushing on responsible people that the licencies will be ready for the M4.
Iwan, there are the zip distro that you can use. Please be aware about the restrictions that I've noticed here

Posted by Lukas on September 25, 2006 at 03:27 AM CEST #

Thank you for the update, Lukas and Roumen.

Posted by Joe on September 25, 2006 at 09:11 AM CEST #

how does Visual Web pack work with ADF?

Posted by Luka on September 27, 2006 at 09:37 AM CEST #

what's ADF? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADF

Posted by Lukas on September 27, 2006 at 09:58 AM CEST #

ADF is Oracle's JSF implementation that is used in JDeveloper. I believe the answer is "it doesn’t." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Application_Development_Framework

Posted by Jeff on September 27, 2006 at 10:26 PM CEST #

Will the Visual Web Pack support facelets?

Posted by Doug on September 27, 2006 at 11:16 PM CEST #

There is a separate plugin for NB - http://wiki.netbeans.info/wiki/view/FaceletsSupport

I don't know about the ADF. IMO, it doesn't. I'll try to find it out to be sure.

Posted by Lukas on September 28, 2006 at 07:18 AM CEST #

No, visual web pack doesn't support ADF. ADF is a quite proprietary technology from Oracle. As for facelets, there is a separate plug-in for facelets, but there's no visual support. But the future of Visual Web Pack is open - once it will be open sourced the community can drive it into new directions.

Posted by Roumen on October 07, 2006 at 04:57 AM CEST #

is visual web pack is part of 6.0 M4?

Posted by somasekhar on October 24, 2006 at 01:31 PM CEST #

No.
The VWP will be available as Pack (like Mobility Pack, Enterprise Pack...). The Visual Web Pack should be available on October 30. It will be preview build for 5.5 release.

Posted by Lukas on October 24, 2006 at 02:00 PM CEST #

Thanks lukas.. I am very eager to see it on my machine :)

Posted by somasekhar on October 24, 2006 at 02:22 PM CEST #

I am very eager to see it to. No more than five days wating :-) However, I hope it will not b a simple port of Creator because Creator is just a sort of proof of concept. It really can't be used for anything aimed at production :-( So I understand some time is needed to turn this into a really usefull product, but being able to test it while it is developped should help to make it better sooner. We need to things : 1) Release milestone versions so that we can test it before it is officially out. 2) Listen to what the users have to say. My experience with Creator was approximately one severe bug avery 10 minutes. I really mean SEVERE such as corrupting files and things like this. I would gladly have continued spending times to catch other bugs if I had feel that somebody was really inrested !

Posted by Pierre-Yves on October 25, 2006 at 02:18 AM CEST #

@Pierre-Yves:
1, there will be Preview build of VWP available (06/10/30). Test it as much as you can ;)
2, Report any issue/bug/enhancement. You can use Issuezilla for that - http://www.netbeans.org/issues/enter_bug.cgi?component=visualweb

Posted by Lukas on October 25, 2006 at 06:58 AM CEST #

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