The Ubuntu Brand

Interesting branding story shaping up in the Linux community -- Is Ubuntu becoming the generic Linux distro? Could the market be deciding that Ubuntu is Linux? I'm an Ubuntu user, and I surely don't see Ubuntu as the only Linux, but it's surely the only Linux I'd use.


Well I would have liked Slackware to become the `standard` really.

I am _still_ unsure why it was not picked ?

Any way, I droped Linux now for the Solaris kernel.
I hope to see more drivers though for a better desktop ride..
Filesystem support like ext2/3 and xfs and better fat32 would all really help.
Just wish I had time/money to take on a xfs port to solaris myself :p funding a student life ant easy :(


Posted by EdwardOCallaghan on April 08, 2008 at 11:54 AM JST #

hey ... I've never tried Slackware, but I've heard it's quite good. I'm only a user, though. :) That's why Ubuntu is easy for me. They really do seem to go out of their way to engage new people, and that impresses me (and I think we are moving in that direction on OpenSolaris). I use OpenSolaris Developer Preview on my main laptop, and on a spare I have Ubuntu.

Posted by Jim Grisanzio on April 08, 2008 at 02:33 PM JST #

Hi Jim

Would you mind if I ask you why wouldn't you use other linux distros? Did you know that there are lots of other distros that are in the same level as ubuntu, if not better, regarding lots of factors like usability, security policy, availability of software, maintainability, etc?

Posted by Marcio on April 08, 2008 at 03:44 PM JST #

Oh, it's just personal preference, really. It's not meant as a slight to the others (though that's probably what it sounds like). I just like Ubuntu. I like the community. They (as a group, anyway) seem positive to me, and the individuals I've met have treated me very well. Actually, everyone in the Linux community that I've actually met has treated me well. Also, to me the technology itself is secondary. I have a few basic requirements: easy install, stability, good speed, ease of use (wireless, etc), and a clear focus on new users. I'm coming from a Windows and Mac background, and most recently Solaris (which is now very easy to install and use as well) obviously. Also, I'd like to learn from the Linux community (and other communities) about how to build a great community for OpenSolaris. We are still emerging here, and looking out is healthy for us to do.

Posted by Jim Grisanzio on April 08, 2008 at 04:28 PM JST #

Dude ... get serious!

You are biased and I believe that you never tried anything else. You got a Crapbuntu CD and think that it is the flying pig! Why don't you try the other stuff out there as well before you try to tell that arsebuntu is the best.

There are much better things out there ... easier to install, administrate and so on. You just didn't take the time to try it!

Yeah - blame me for being rude! But you started it!

Posted by daemon on April 09, 2008 at 02:50 AM JST #

After we get all the windows and mac users on Ubuntu, they can find their way to other similar operating systems later.

Right now, ubuntu is what we are, and I don't care if Fedora is better, I don't care if mandriva is better, you don't point a noob to a kernel, you point them to a complete operating system, and it needs to be one they can get support for from somebody /in their neighborhood/.

Once the consumer world realizes that there is a whole other realm beyond windows and mac, every one of the FOSS operating systems will see a surge in community.

Posted by ethana2 on April 09, 2008 at 04:11 AM JST #

daemon ... of course I'm biased. Every human being on earth is biased. There are no exceptions. And yes, I have run other Linux distros (Red Hat and SUSE), but that was a bit ago (four years, probably). If you don't believe me, that's fine. Anyway, give me some pointers to what I should try that is better than Ubuntu. Let's just start with one. I'll try it and if my experience is better than Ubuntu than I'll blog it right here.

Posted by Jim Grisanzio on April 09, 2008 at 04:30 AM JST #

Here you go:

and when you tried and tested it then try

and then

I could go on for hours but I think that I covered the "big players".
Now test all and then tell us what you think and why.

Posted by daemon on April 09, 2008 at 10:47 PM JST #

Coincidentally, I'm with Jim on Ubuntu being a really nice Linux. I moved over from Red Hat Enterprise Linux which I didn't find to be very user-friendly. Here are two big things I love about Ubuntu:
1) apt-get seems friendlier than rpm (e.g. "apt-get update")
2) LAMP is set up way more easily (e.g. /etc/apache2/...)

With Ubuntu it's great that the enterprise version is free until you want to buy support, unlike Red Hat. But I do hear good things about Gentoo from friends, so I guess it's like food - whatever your appetite fancies. I hope Sun expands its relationship with Ubuntu (Canonical) since it's a very popular choice for the CMT boxes.

Posted by Kevin Hutchinson on April 10, 2008 at 01:48 AM JST #

daemon ... I tried Mandriva tonight. Never used that distro. Download was hard. Many links broken (about 8 actually). Finally got it, though. Install failed three times (just hung a few seconds into install). On third attempt it installed jet fast (very nice!). I have not used KDE in a bit, so that was a good surprise. Nice clean GUI. Had problems using the software updater (but that was probably my fault) tying to get Thunderbird (why wasn`t it already installed?). In general, it was good, but I still find Ubuntu easier (though Mandriva installs much faster). I will try the others after we get past our new OpenSolaris release in May. Thanks for the links. :)

Posted by Jim Grisanzio on April 10, 2008 at 04:01 PM JST #

I'll support daemon. As already mentioned above, its a personal choice & hence I go with the comment that its a biased post. For a simple PC ubuntu may be good but when it comes to power play, I prefer openSUSE. In its latest release it has left all other linux distros way behind (now you can call this comment as biased). Ultimately the end of the story is what user requires !!!

Posted by Ajay Kumar on April 16, 2008 at 01:07 PM JST #

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