JSPWiki and XWiki Evaluations

Chris published his evaluations of JSPWiki and XWiki as potential candidates to use as a platform for replacing the current opensolaris.org portal. Questions, further evaluations, and discussion should take place on website-discuss. It's great to see so much localization support in these packages. This is just part of the overhaul of the opensolaris.org infrastructure, though. There is a lot to do to tease apart the current site into component parts, but we are making progress now.

Why are you guys going for these two engines?

JSP Wiki lacks fundamental features. You cannot possibly
consider using this engine. Why isn't mediawiki
part of the evaluation?

OpenOffice.org is using mediawiki and we are
quite satisfied with it. I wonder why you guys never
cared to ask other groups for their opinion before
settling on engines.

Introducing yet another wiki engine will mean
additional challenges to localization and other processes.

Posted by Frank on June 25, 2008 at 10:52 PM JST #

hey ... well, a few things. The Sun globalization team was involved in the requirements process, the i18n list on OpenSolaris was pinged several times to offer their opinions, and we selected packages to test that would best fit the needs of the project specification http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/website/wiki_requirements/. If you feel that other packages should be tested, please feel free to do so as per the announcement from Chris http://opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=62575&tstart=0 and report your results. Also, kep in mind that we are replacing the opensolaris.org webapp; we are not just adding a wiki to the existing site. I think xwiki comes out on top so far.

Posted by Jim Grisanzio on June 26, 2008 at 01:13 AM JST #

Never mind, Jim.

I see that you guys have set up a fairly extensive list of requirements. Mediawiki is out of scope since it's not JAVA based, and that is a must have for you.

I had a discussion with G11N the other day and their greatest fear is proliferation of wiki engines and markups to take care of. Adding yet another engine will make their life harder. But I admit that feature-wise XWiki looks like a promising choice. It's just that there are \*so many\* wikis out there. The next group will favor yet another engine, and dependent groups like Tech Pubs and G11N will ultimately have to deal with this variety. It would be good to have some general guidelines that restrict this variety to a minimum. I apologize if my tone sounded kind of harsh.

I wasn't aware of the wiki choice wizard, btw.
That looks kind of cool.

Have fun in Prague.

Posted by Frank on June 26, 2008 at 01:35 PM JST #

hey, Frank. No problem. There has been some confusion around this. We'll get it straight eventually. :)

Posted by Jim Grisanzio on June 27, 2008 at 10:23 AM JST #

Hi Frank,

the dev folks here at XWiki perfectly understand the concern arising from having to learn a new syntax everytime you start using a new wiki engine. That's why they're currently working on the new XWiki rendering engine that will feature the ability to choose the syntax you want to use on your wiki pages from an extended set of syntaxes (it includes the XWiki, MediaWiki, WikiCreole & Confluence syntaxes for now).

The feature is currently under heavy development, though you can test it in the latest releases of XWiki... See http://tinyurl.com/46wjq5 for more information on the topic.

Posted by Guillaume on June 27, 2008 at 01:18 PM JST #

Hi Guillaume,

multiple syntaxes - that's actually a pretty cool feature. Cannot wait to see it. It would also minimize migration effort when switching wiki engines for existing content.

Thanks for the pointer!

Posted by Frank on June 27, 2008 at 02:18 PM JST #

Hi Frank,

it's quite experimental at this time, though you might be able to test it if you download the latest version of XWiki Enterprise (1.5 M2) over here : http://tinyurl.com/yobja4 . You need to edit a page in wiki mode while logged-in as an admin, there's a syntax choice panel at the bottom right of the page when editing...

However it's based on WikiModel and their parser currently has a couple limitations, but it's going to be improved a lot in the months ahead :-)

Plus you're right, this would help ease wiki migrations a lot !

Posted by Guillaume Lerouge on June 27, 2008 at 02:57 PM JST #

Did you guys evaluate Doku Wiki - http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:dokuwiki

standards based, runs on PHP - can run natively with web stack components - apache 2.2, php on opensolaris

Posted by Sriram Natarajan on June 29, 2008 at 04:50 AM JST #


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