Intel Project

[intel-platform-discuss] Thanks a bunch to our Intel colleagues: "They helped us in every stage of the projects, including design, coding, reviewing, pre- and post- integration testing. Without their dedication none of the progress would have been possible." -- Sherry Moore

Very cool to see the Intel project progressing on OpenSolaris between two very large vendors. I'm especially interested in this next phase of OpenSolaris and in how big corporate engineering organizations collaborate under new rules -- in the open. To me, projects like this offer the greatest opportunity for change and for innovation.
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Yes this contribution is great. But it is a bit sad that this thank you email is almost the only message ever posted on this mailing-list, not as open as one could hope.

Posted by Marc on August 20, 2007 at 06:54 PM JST #

Opening development projects and changing behavior takes time. It needs to be rewarded, not undermined. And I notice your comment to my blog lacks an email address or a link of any kind to substantiate who you are. So, therefore, your comment lacks credibility. Have you posted your feelings to the Intel dev or discuss lists? There are two Intel project lists: http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/intel-platform-discuss/ and http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/intel-platform-dev/.

Posted by Jim Grisanzio on August 21, 2007 at 12:03 AM JST #

Sadly, since the first sentence of my post is shorter than the second one, you took it to be less important, which it is not. I truly appreciate how much progress has been done. I only meant that it is still possible to do better. I will try to learn to phrase my thoughts more adequately so as not to hurt people when I am not meaning to at all. Please accept my apologies for looking like I was attacking people.

Posted by Marc on August 21, 2007 at 06:10 PM JST #

Marc ... cool, thanks. You are certainly correct that we can do more. Many parts of the project are pretty wide open, but many are still closed. It's taking longer than we had wanted, but we've also discovered that opening a system as large as Solaris (code, people, process, infrastructure) is way more complex than previously thought. I think the first phase of opening code was pretty easy compared to the current phase of moving to open development. We are coming to a crossroads now, though, with the movement of the main kernel SCM gate to Mercurial internally, which means that the main gate will be moved across the firewall right after that. And then very large numbers of engineers will have to learn to work in the open. So, this is a very, very long term gig here, and small steps are critical. That's the one key lesson I've learned on the project. Also, the significance of the Intel putbacks is that this is the first time Sun cut a deal with a big partner involving OpenSolaris and some of that work is coming to fruition.

Posted by Jim Grisanzio on August 22, 2007 at 03:57 PM JST #

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