Early SaveJe pains

I was one of the 800(?) other attendees at JavaOne to get my hands on the SaveJe platform, at the cost of $200. The phone itself (S20) is average, and was not the point of the purchase at all. It's what is running on the phone that is of interest. CDC. Yes, Swing development for your phone!

However, it is hard for me to decouple the SavaJe platform from the phone. I only have one SIM card, so I either use my older-but-still-capable Nokia 6260, or I can move the SIM card over to the S20. For that reason, I was hoping I could use the S20 as my primary phone for a while. There is some nasty bug, and hopefully not a feature, that puts the phone in this weird mode where I get LOUD feedback whenever I pick up the phone to talk, blowing my eardrum as well as that of the person at the other end. Feedback was great when I was in a middle-school rock band, but not for a cell phone. I'm pretty sure the speakerphone's input (not output) is enabled. I can't make the damn thing go away.

Using the NetBeans Mobility Pack I, very briefly, tried to write a "Hello World" (literally) application to run on the phone. While it worked in the emulator, it didn't run on the phone. Grrr. I didn't have time to debug and I wouldn't be surprised if the problem was me trying to rush through the docs. FYI, I did sign up as a developer for the SavaJe platform. The wiki, etc, is barren but that is to be expected on what I think is the public launch of their product. It's time to post some entries. Especially one on cell phone feedback.

Update: Yikes, I just saw the link to this entry from java.net, thanks to StatCounter. My rather anectdotal "report" was more of a "bummer" than anything else. I am getting great support from the SaveJe folks, who are exchanging my phone. From a platform perspective, I'll blog more about that when I get the new phone. I don't want to give the SaveJe folks a bum wrap before I even get started.
Comments:

Hi, John: Thanks for your recent purchase of the Jasper S20 and welcome to the SavaJe OS application development community. From your description, the audio feedback problem appears to be hardware-related. As for the NetBeans/Xlet development issue, I'll need some more data from you to see where the problem lies. I'll contact you shortly by email to discuss the next step to get you back up and running. Regards, Larry Kaye - Manager, Developer Services - SavaJe Technologies

Posted by Larry Kaye on May 23, 2006 at 04:56 AM PDT #

Larry, I appreciate the offer. I don't waste your time yet on my Xlet issue (yet). I was going at lightning speed trying to get something up and running. While the steps are pretty simple, I may have munged something. I'll let you know how it goes.

As for the phone, I'm not convinced it is a hardware issue. I'm wondering if it is an underlying software bug. If you think it is a hardware problem, can I ask you for a replacement?

Posted by John Clingan on May 23, 2006 at 05:53 AM PDT #

John, I think that you should download the update1 of the Mobility Pack 5.5 for CDC. There was a bug in packaging of the jar when you used free design layout from Matisse GUI designer. Are you creating CDC/AGUI app or CLDC/MIPD?

http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/lukas?entry=update_1_for_mobility_pack

Posted by Lukas on May 25, 2006 at 01:00 AM PDT #

There are several phones right now that run the CDC (Personal Profile). I have the Nokia 9300, and the other phones that run it are the Nokia 9500, Sony M600, Sony P990. I also bought the Savaje Jasper - Couldn't they create a cool-looking phone? ;-) - to test it out. I can tell you now that although I bought the Nokia 9300 for the CDC, I have uet to install ONE single PP(CDC) app on it. All the apps I use are MIDP (Google Maps Mobile, Opera Mini, Shopper, etc, etc) simply because THERE ARE NO PP (CDC) apps available! I've written about this, and tried to encourage some people to port their apps from JSE to PP: http://blueboard.com/smalljava/archives/21 http://blueboard.com/smalljava/archives/15 The funny thing is some of the people I contacted were interested, but were already developing their apps for MIDP! We NEED SWING on PP so it would be easier for people to convert!

Posted by asj on May 25, 2006 at 01:43 AM PDT #

There are several phones right now that run the CDC (Personal Profile). I have the Nokia 9300, and the other phones that run it are the Nokia 9500, Sony M600, Sony P990. I also bought the Savaje Jasper - Couldn't they create a cool-looking phone? ;-) - to test it out.

I can tell you now that although I bought the Nokia 9300 for the CDC, I have uet to install ONE single PP(CDC) app on it. All the apps I use are MIDP (Google Maps Mobile, Opera Mini, Shopper, etc, etc) simply because THERE ARE NO PP (CDC) apps available!

I've written about this, and tried to encourage some people to port their apps from JSE to PP:

http://blueboard.com/smalljava/archives/21

http://blueboard.com/smalljava/archives/15

The funny thing is some of the people I contacted were interested, but were already developing their apps for MIDP!

We NEED SWING on PP so it would be easier for people to convert!

Posted by asj on May 25, 2006 at 01:45 AM PDT #

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