Java Store Beta: payment and a new client

Put an accountant, a lawyer, an MBA and a software engineer together into a room... Sounds like the lead-in to a bad joke, but it's the exercise that the Java Store team has been living through for the past several months. At the PayPal conference today Eric Klein did an announcement and demo of the next phase in the Java Store's development. We've been working with PayPal on this for some time, using their new PayPal X platform. It always amazes me how complex it is to deal with all the details of global finance. And even so, the store today only handles US issues. But the framework is in place to go global as fast as the lawyers and accountants can work through the details — but it'll take a while. There's a new client application for shopping in the store, and a new warehouse site for developers to upload products.

Even with the current US-only restriction, that's about 65 million desktops for a target market. Please check it out, kick the tires, let us know what you think: we'd like to get it out of beta and do a real large scale consumer launch as soon as we can.


I tried creating an a/c. Surprised when it said my email id was already taken. Will the login credentials of the a/c with say My Sun or SDN be used here as well??? Also when I tried to look at the a/c settings, I was asked for the state and zip code. When I saved it, this is what I got:

State ABCDEF does not contain this postal code NNNNN.

Is there any bug here?

Posted by Anand on November 03, 2009 at 10:14 PM PST #

Is this why JWebPane has not been released and why Swing is not getting any real improvements in Java 7? Because everybody is too busy working on this Java Store and JavaFX?

Java is in desperate need of a full-functionality, modern web browser component. The number and types of applications that people can create without one are very limited, thus the applications this Java Store can provide are limited also.

Posted by Ryan on November 03, 2009 at 10:42 PM PST #

We need improvement for Swing in 7, a proper tree table (like JIDE), perf (already quite nice), fixing all JTable bugs, etc. And we need integration between Swing & JavaFX (Video/Audio).
Swing is a very very good framework - keep working on it please.

Posted by guest on November 04, 2009 at 01:19 AM PST #

You guys ignore JMediaPane because you basically hate Swing developers. And JavaFX is like Swing from 2001 plus a scene graph.

I'm now forced to use WPF/Silverlight and Qt. And I got two megabytes of Java and 146 lines of JavaFX. I'm back using C++ again because JavaFX fixes nothing. The iPhone runs Objective C and yet Sun thinks language syntax is the big problem. Objective C is from the stone age.

Does this Java Store application even support frame resizing ? Every single screenshot has the same size.

Posted by Jan Erik Paulsen on November 04, 2009 at 02:40 AM PST #

I passed this along via the feedback mechanism. However, there is nothing like telling the source. :)

I think that unless Sun is going to provide graphic artists for the apps, they need to make the icons less prominent. The current design makes the icons very apparent. As a result, the look and feel of the store is the icons. I am not a designer, but apple has done a much better job of making the icons matter, but minimizing them so that the store is more prominent.

I imagine this is a platform thing, but I downloaded/ran the latest developer store last night and the time to move between pages was horribly slow. Once, they had been cached (visited) it was fine. For instance, just clicking the arrow to go to the next page of apps took 5-7 seconds. If you opened the detail panel, it sometimes took 15 seconds to go from app to app. This was on a 8 way mac pro with a 10G connection and jdk6. So, I was surprised.

I hope this is taken constructively. I want the app store to be a viable platform (I wanna sell stuff! :)). In that vein, I think that the user experience in the store is critical.


Posted by Les Stroud on November 04, 2009 at 04:32 AM PST #

Damon: your stack trace is familiar. It looks like a bug in Apple's Tiger JDK6 preview that was fixed in their FCS release. Upgrade to Snow Leopard and things should run much better.

Posted by James Gosling on November 04, 2009 at 06:07 AM PST #

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