Wouldn't it have been cool if Oracle had said...

Wouldn't it have been cool if Oracle had said the following, sometime during all those announcements yesterday:

"The NetBeans Platform is very important to a lot of our customers, who are actually building their products on top of the NetBeans Platform. We want to make that the best platform that we can for doing that for you."

If Oracle had said that, based on the plain fact of the existence of customers (some of them using Oracle, many of them being very large corporations and institutions) on the NetBeans Platform, then a simple logical, rational, direction would have been given, flowing directly from Sun VP Jim Parkinson's comparable statement (here in his blog) end of last year.

So, bummer.

Hey, but wait a minute! That's exactly what Ted Farrell, (Oracle Chief Architect and Vice President, Tools and Middleware), did say yesterday:

Click this link and see/hear it for yourself. (Go to approximately the 11th minute.)

And, note, here I am saying nothing other than what has already been said. By Ted Farrell himself, i.e. this blog entry provides a simple direct quote, unvarnished and unspun, straight from a publicly available statement: "The NetBeans Platform is very important to a lot of our customers, who are actually building their products on top of the NetBeans Platform. We want to make that the best platform that we can for doing that for you."

It's a great day for the NetBeans Platform, the world's only modular Swing application framework. Those who have been hesitating to adopt it because of the uncertain state that Sun has found itself in over the past months, should at least find the above words worth thinking about.


Geerjan, I am so happy that netbeans.org stays. i have been using netbeans since version 5 and it has only gotten better and I hope it will improve even more under Oracle. Thank you for all the great posts you have been writing on Netbeans, I have learnt a lot from then things you have showed me how to do. And good luck to you.

Posted by Suhail Manzoor on January 27, 2010 at 09:23 PM PST #

And what about Kenai? Not sure to get the point here. Use internally and if it reaches expectations it is going (back) public!? So kenai.com is going to be taken offline eventually?

Posted by jmborer on January 27, 2010 at 10:54 PM PST #

Halfway reading through your post I thought: "Hey, they did say that!"

So, I noticed that also and so I am sure that I did the right thing to choose NetBeans to be my IDE of choice over the Eclipse not sooo long ago.

You can be proud: You are a well known part of NetBean's success, I think - so thanks to you too!

Posted by Martin Wildam on January 27, 2010 at 10:59 PM PST #

I think it unlikely that this would have been part of the presentation if you had not been tirelessly blogging about all the NB Platform customers, raising awareness of its "underground popularity" with clients who are not in the habit of publicizing their technology choices.

Posted by Rich Unger on January 28, 2010 at 12:26 AM PST #


Big congratulations to the whole NetBeans Community, and big thanks to you, Geertjan. This could not have been achieved without your constant help.

Posted by Antonio on January 28, 2010 at 03:46 AM PST #

Very good news.

Posted by Charles Ditzel on January 28, 2010 at 11:47 AM PST #

So again proven - one man can make a difference!

Posted by Sven Reimers on January 28, 2010 at 05:53 PM PST #

Great! I love Netbeans and would keep using it regardless. Netbeans rocks!

Posted by Luis A. Morales on January 28, 2010 at 07:37 PM PST #

That's great news! It's nice that things are starting to settle down, and hopefully people can get back to business.

Posted by Josh Asbury on January 28, 2010 at 10:41 PM PST #

This is great about netbeans, but, sad for kenai. I have to just recently discovered kenai and had planned my next project to be hosted there and if all worked out I was to move all other projects to it. I can only hope that oracle add these features to java.net. I think the main reason kenai did not have a better track record has been the fact that the name does not convey what it is or is used for like java.net. Another thing that slowed its adoption was the fact that java.net is so well known and a lot of people still use it and did not want to change hosts. So, in retrospect this is also a sad day for netbeans as it loses one of its strong selling points! I can only hope that netbeans at least keeps its bug tracker integration, its the mylyn of netbeans.

Posted by adam on January 29, 2010 at 09:46 AM PST #

Great News! Congratulations to the entire NetBeans community and especially to Geertjan for his tireless efforts!

Posted by Sanat on January 29, 2010 at 07:50 PM PST #

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Geertjan Wielenga (@geertjanw) is a Principal Product Manager in the Oracle Developer Tools group living & working in Amsterdam. He is a Java technology enthusiast, evangelist, trainer, speaker, and writer. He blogs here daily.

The focus of this blog is mostly on NetBeans (a development tool primarily for Java programmers), with an occasional reference to NetBeans, and sometimes diverging to topics relating to NetBeans. And then there are days when NetBeans is mentioned, just for a change.


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