Risks from cyclists

If you were to believe the papers you would think there was a huge problem cyclists endangering pedestrians. Whether it is cyclists jumping traffic lights or cyclists on the pavement. However llike so many things the truth of the matter is very different. While pavement cyclists and red light jumping should not be condoned the danger it represents is wildly overstated. As a pedestrian or any other road user the the dangers are motor vehicles.

As can be seen from the answer given by the secretary of state for Transport:

Jim Fitzpatrick: The numbers of pedestrians that were (a) injured, (b) seriously injured and (c) killed in collisions with (i) cars (ii) all motor vehicles and (iii) cyclists in reported personal injury road accidents in each of the last 10 years are given in the table:

Number of casualties

 

1998

1999

2000

2001

2002

2003

2004

2005

2006

2007

Cars











All injured

37367

35054

34199

32955

31490

29276

28116

26680

24963

24169

Serious

8063

7451

7161

6828

6496

5886

5552

5251

5236

5064

Killed

673

608

590

531

534

533

462

470

471

433












All motor vehicles











All injured

43621

41598

40783

39431

37734

35337

33931

32290

30060

29297

Serious

9492

8876

8559

8169

7801

7109

6746

6389

6322

6224

Killed

904

863

851

825

770

767

669

666

672

642












Pedal Cyclists











All injured

309

346

291

258

205

255

235

276

223

225

Serious

72

70

66

60

47

45

49

61

47

48

Killed

2

5

3

0

4

4

1

3

3

4

1. All injured includes seriously injured and slightly injured casualties.



So if you percieve you are in danger from cyclists, watch out for the cars.

Original data here: http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200809/cmhansrd/cm090126/text/90126w0003.htm#column_14W

Comments:

I wanted to post a comment, but the system keeps telling me that my comment has "blacklisted/ignored words".

Only I can't figure out which word is "blacklisted", and the system doesn't tell me that.

Posted by UX-admin on February 01, 2009 at 02:13 AM GMT #

Actually you "cyclists" are extremely dangerous to us drivers. If you keel over while I'm passing you and there's an accident, it's automatically my fault. I have no chance to prove that I'm innocent.

I could point out tons of such examples. I've come to dread people on bicycles because I'm always scared something will happen and I'll be the one to blame. Never mind that a person on a bicycle can suddenly change direction. A lot of you don't even signal your intent.

And yes, I've seen a lot of people on bicycles just go through the red light! Should I start counting?

Now that's what I call abuse: a lot of people on bicycles don't respect the traffic laws, but if something happens to them, then they fully fall back on the same laws they themselves don't respect.

If you want to use a bicycle as your primary means of transportation, go right ahead. But I maintain that people on bicycles are a menace and a danger on public roads, especially to us motor vehicle drivers. You people should have your own dedicated roads.

Posted by UX-admin on February 01, 2009 at 02:15 AM GMT #

I am a driver. I am a cyclist. I'm also not an anonymous poster. Since the post is very close to being trolling I'll reply just once to the anonymous user.

Since 85% of motorists admit breaking the speed limit there is no one group who is more or less law abiding and red light jumping is not the sole preserve of cyclists either.

However the danger posed by cyclists is minimal compared to that of motorists and consitently over stated by the media and by parts of the public.

You are concerned that you will be held accountable for your actions, might even be fined, although the evidence does not support this. It is almost unheard of for motorists to be held accountable for the deaths of others on the road and when they are the penalties are derisory. There is no automatic presumtion of guilt for motorists who hit cyclists (in the UK). However if you give cyclist room even if they were to "keel over" you would miss them. I would suggest you give cyclists enough room.

The consequences of motorists speeding and driving dangerously is disproportionaly felt by vunerable road users, cyclists, pedestrians and in particular children rather than the motorists who will walk away from the collision. If you hit a cyclist or pedestrian the probability is that they won't walk away.

Saying that "people on bicycles are a menace" is plain stupid. Some people who ride bikes are a menace just as some people who drive cars are a menace but again I would much prefer that menace on a bike than in a car on a bike they pose almost no risk at all in a car they are, as the statistics show, a danger to everyone.

Posted by Chris Gerhard on February 01, 2009 at 06:08 AM GMT #

At least Duabi have got it right and banned cyclists.
http://www.7days.ae/storydetails.php?id=70953&title=Cycle%20ban%20blasted

Why is it cyclists are so sanctimonious. You want to cylce, fine. You want to cylce and blame cars etc for all your ills not fine, besidesthe original comment in this blog is valid, hit a cylcist and you always get the blame. You want to cycle fine but play by the rules.

Posted by tarmac pounder on February 02, 2009 at 01:40 AM GMT #

I'd like to see the evidence to support the statement "hit a cyclist and you always get the blame", of course I never will as it is rubbish.

The point is if you want to be on the road play by the rules. That includes giving cyclists room and driving and cycling considerably.

I always find these attacks on cyclists claiming cyclists are sanctimonious odd. All I want is to be able to travel safely and that means I have to rely on other road users and in particular motorists driving safely. That is for a small band of motorists too much to ask. They will use their vehicles as weapons to deliberately intimidate cyclists, who in the event of a collision stand a high chance of ending up in hospital or the morgue. Then anonymous poster comment on blogs negatively about cyclists. I can understand why you are ashamed of what you write since it is clearly rubbish.

However that was not the point of the post. The point of the post was that cyclists, despite what you read in the press and the anonymous posters here would have you believe are not the cause of danger to other road users. That is the preserve of motorists.

Posted by Chris Gerhard on February 02, 2009 at 02:17 AM GMT #

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