Oracle Certification and the Hands-On Course Requirement (Part 2)

Oracle Certification TrainingContinued from Tuesday's post "Oracle Certification and the Hands-On Course Requirement" (Part 1)

Isn’t This Just All About Money?
No, it’s not. And skeptics…read on:

First - the financial impact that Oracle initially took was tremendous. And because most of the aforementioned ‘bottom-feeders’ will never come back (the assumption being that they’ve given up on Oracle), we will continue to forfeit the fees associated with them.

Secondly - had the requirement been only about money, it would have been far more expansive than the actual policy in place right now. As it stands - the hands-on course requirement does not apply to many areas, such as the Oracle Certified Associate (OCA) level certifications, all developer certification tracks, and the complete set of Middleware certification tracks. Additionally - those who are upgrading their Oracle certification(s) are not required to attend further mandatory training - from any level, to any level. Essentially, once you are certified you have indeed demonstrated your commitment, have engaged in quality interactive learning that is key to success, and are hence ‘onboard’ and no longer required to attend additional mandatory training courses.

Why Is The Course Requirement So Strict? Do You Give Exceptions?
When the course requirement was initially implemented, only those courses related specifically to the exams in the track were awarded credit towards the requirement. As part of an ongoing analysis, we were able to expand the policy to include additional advanced courses related to the certification being pursued, thus opening the range of training options to meet the varied needs of our many candidates. Now the option exists to choose from a variety of courses to help increase knowledge while meeting the certification requirements. Our goal is to help candidates improve their skills, recognition and careers, and we feel that this is an excellent way to support our candidates. Because of our commitment to this valuable process, we do not provide exceptions to the hands-on course requirement for Oracle certification.

Oracle raised the bar for certification with the hands-on course requirement. This has had a clear and definite positive impact on the overall value of the Oracle certification - both for those who hold them, as well as those in the marketplace for Oracle credentialed individuals. As can be expected, we often get input from critics of the course requirement. Although in evaluating their position I often see compelling arguments, but sadly there is often also a clear bias. For example, we’ve recently gotten negative feedback from a non-Oracle training center whose courses do not count towards our requirement.

The primary goal of our program is for the candidates who earn our credentials to be experienced, well-trained and highly skilled. We believe that the hands-on course requirement supports that goal.

If you are holding back on earning an Oracle certification because you find that the course requirement is a barrier, I strongly encourage you to take a close look and consider how you can leverage the required training to improve and broaden your skills.

Paul Sorensen

Paul Sorensen,
Director, Oracle Certification


Paul, Thanks for a very nice post. I completely agree with the HOC requirement as I have seen this happening a lot that people go for a cheap training given by a single individual on a single pc which at times,doesn't even have proper softwares to show the hands on too. OU quality is top notch when it comes to labs, instructors and an over all good training experience. As I support and encourage candidates to go for certification to prove their technical skills, I always encourage them to go for a proper training as well along with it. That said, I still feel that at some points , the restriction appears to be a very high barrier for some folks who don't pay from the company money and spend from their own pocket. For example, in OCM, there are 2 courses are needed to attend after attaining OCP(and may be person have attended one course already while doing that too) which too are advanced courses. I agree that the level of OCM is very high so asking delegate to attend an advanced course will only him but I feel , the restriction of 2 courses is a bit extreme. This can be set to 1 course , just like the OCP course, as the fee for the OCM exam also is way higher as compared to OCE,OCP. I would appreciate your valuable opinion for this. Thanks for the great certification platform and for the good work that your team does. regards Aman....

Posted by Aman.... on July 09, 2009 at 02:42 PM PDT #

Hi Paul, Thanks for the wonderful insight, and your perspective on the mandatory training associated with the Oracle Courses. It definites does a bit to heed to the concerns of the community as a whole. I basically work with Siebel CRM, and have always wondered about the mandatory training clause Oracle has. Unfortunately, I beg to differ with your viewpoint. You say, Oracle has introduced the mandatory training clause to avoid fakes. But, how does the course guarantee that there would be no fakes? The bottom liners would still be there. Just that it would take them a little more time (and obviously more money in Oracle's pocket) to do it. You also mention that some of the Oracle certifications don't need a mandatory classroom course, like the OCA. Does this mean that Oracle's OCA is likely to have higher number of the so called bottom liners, and thus should be considered a less valuable certification? Are we concluding that Oracle itself is biased towards a community based on the technology domain, Siebel CRM certification, or the Oracle DB tech?

Posted by Nitin Jain on July 09, 2009 at 03:02 PM PDT #

Paul, I would agree with you if the courses quality are as high as should be. But unfortunatelly it is not like this and sometimes the instructor doesn't have any, or minimal, experience and the course is just a waste of time and money. I would also like to say that the exam by itself doesn't guarantee anything. I don't feel more confident by earning these certifications but seems that the people I work for do. So fair enough we pay for what we ask for. With all, the quality of the exams should be improved as there are ambiguities either in the documentation, which I suppose the questions are taken from, and the questions. You can check what I mean my comment to the next comment: Thanks, LW

Posted by Looreine on July 11, 2009 at 04:43 AM PDT #

While I think there is value in requiring a class for certification (thus in theory there is a guarantee that a certification is more than the ability to memorize a brain dump), I have a hard time buying into it not being about money for Oracle. If it weren't, why do the classes HAVE to be via Oracle (and thus $3k+)? Why not allow for the curriculum to be taught at local community colleges and thus cost the worker/company 1k? Or allow verifiable work experience to count?

Posted by kathryn on July 17, 2009 at 05:11 AM PDT #

Hi Paul Apologies for posting this question here, but I've been trying in vain to get a response from Oracle via the proper/official channels. I'm in the process of doing my HOC's for the 10g OCM. I'm in the UK and want to do the Oracle Streams course as part of this. Unfortunately the Streams 10g course seems to be discontinued, with only the 11g one available. I would like to know if this course (Sreams 11g) will be accepted as part of the 2 HOC's needed for the 10g OCM? There are a few 9i & 11g courses listed on Oracle's website as acceptable for this, but this course is not one of them. On this note, the other course I did was the 10g RAC course. Will this be acceptable for the 11g OCM (in case I decide to skip the 10g one and go directly for the 11g OCM when it becomes available - which seems is going to be soon)? I would appreciate if someone can answer this and also email me an official response for my records. Kind Regards Frederik

Posted by Frederik on July 20, 2009 at 10:35 PM PDT #

Hi Looreine Thanks for your comments. I wanted to point out that if you (or anyone) has an issue with an Oracle course that they attended, Oracle offers a 100% Student Satisfaction program (see link below). Thanks, Paul

Posted by Paul Sorensen on July 21, 2009 at 12:34 AM PDT #

Hi Kathryn, Thanks for your comments. There are programs available through community colleges that if taken will count towards the course requirement if they are authorized by Oracle. These usually take many weeks (or even months) to complete but are a very good fit for some people. You'd have to search for these types of courses in your area. As for verifiable experience, I'd love to count this as well, however it is very tough to consistently apply parameters and rules to work experience. I anticipate that our legal team would really have a problem with this unless it was very restrictive, which would make me nervous. I don't think that we are ready to go down this path, although I agree that this would be a good thing to include. Thanks, Paul

Posted by Paul Sorensen on July 21, 2009 at 12:42 AM PDT #

Hello Frederik, As you can see on our Approved Courses page on the Oracle Certification website, the Oracle Database 11g: Implement Streams course is included in the list of approved advanced or specialty courses to meet the course requirement for the 11g OCM certification. Feel free to contact us at with any further questions around 11g OCM requirements. Regards, Brandye

Posted by brandye barrington on July 21, 2009 at 03:41 AM PDT #

Hi Brandye Thanks, but that does not answer any of my 2 questions i.e.: 1.) Is the Streams 11g course acceptable for the 10g OCM? 2.) Is the RAC 10g course acceptable for the 11g OCM? Please note the Streams 10g course is not available in the UK anymore. I do not get replies through the provided email address. Kind Regards Frederik Ps. Thats the same reply I got from Oracle earlier, but it does not answer my question!

Posted by Frederik on July 22, 2009 at 02:43 AM PDT #

Hello Frederik, The OCP team has responded to your questions via email to the address you provided. For the benefit of others reading the blog, I will provide a recap of their response. 1. The 11g Streams course will be accepted toward 10g OCM certification if the 10g Streams course is no longer being offered. 2. The 10g RAC course will not be accepted toward the 11g OCM certification as the 11g RAC technology on R2 will have changed significantly from 10g. I hope this answers your question. Regards, Brandye

Posted by Brandye Barrington on July 22, 2009 at 06:10 AM PDT #

Hello ..! This is my scenario for oracle 10g OCP. I passed introduction to 9i exam on self study . --> If i take only one training from an oracle approved training center in Fundamental I or Fundamental II can i have my OCP recognition from ORACLE ? ---> If i sit for the two remaining exams ? --->Are the three exams compulsory to be taken from an oracle approved training center ? thanks

Posted by soulemane on November 12, 2009 at 10:15 PM PST #

HI Soulemane – congratulations on passing "Introduction to Oracle9i SQL!" Your next step will earn you the OCA, which is taking "Oracle Database 10g: Administration I" (1Z0-042). Because the OCA is a prerequisite for the OCP, you can then earn the OCP by taking (just one) training course and taking "Oracle Database 10g: Administration II" (1Z0-043). The exams may taken at a Pearson VUE ( test center near you. Be sure and submit the Course Submission Form ( to receive credit for your training course.

Posted by Paul Sorensen on November 12, 2009 at 10:52 PM PST #

Dear Sirs, I have completed OCP in Oracle 9i from Kanpur. First two papers of SQL and Fundamental-I I attended the course from an Oracle Authorised Training Centre. The Next Two that is Fundamental-II and Tuning I studied from Private Teacher. I Cleared the last exam about 4 months ago. But I am not getting my OCP certificate. The Institute from where I completed my first two papers hasnt offered me any support. I am getting frustrated. Tell me what is my Fault. Thanks Irfan

Posted by IRFAN AHMAD ANSARI on November 13, 2009 at 01:12 AM PST #

Hi Irfan – did you submit the Course Submission Form to receive credit for your training? Download from

Posted by Paul Sorensen on November 13, 2009 at 01:34 AM PST #

Hi, I have completed my OCA in 2006 and now I have cleared Adavanced PL/SQL on 27 Feb, 2010. Also Completed 'Introduction to SQL' course from a oracle authorized institute and have the certificate from Oracle university. But when I tried to submit hands on requirement course form from Pearson VUE site. It doesn't show any certification pah for OCP developer (Forms or Advanced PL/SQL). Also tutorial for hands on course states that you need Course date and Course ID but certificate which I received from Oracle university does not have either. So, Please let me know how should I submit hands on course form and get my OCP kit. Thanks, Dhiraj

Posted by Dhiraj Bhosale on March 01, 2010 at 02:45 PM PST #

Hi Dhiraj - This can indeed be fixed; for best response, please email Customer Service directly.

REF: Blog Post Customer Service inquries

Posted by Paul Sorensen on March 02, 2010 at 03:50 AM PST #

Hello sir I have passed IZO 007 introduction to Oracle 9i:SQL and also attended the hands on training through one of the oracle authirised development program centre. Now I plan to go for Oracle 10g OCP on self study of IZO 042 & 043. I have one doubt taht weather hands on training on IZO- 007 will meet the requirement towards Hands on training requirement to earn the oracle 10g OCP or not.

Posted by Umesh Kumar on March 12, 2010 at 12:36 PM PST #

Hi Umesh – you can verify this by visiting the Oracle Certification Hands On Course Requirement page.

Posted by Paul Sorensen on March 14, 2010 at 11:15 PM PDT #

Oracle 10g PL/SQL

Posted by Ajit Prasad on August 07, 2010 at 07:02 AM PDT #

Please, direct me on how to submit my HOC. i did my OCP training @ NIIT Lagos, Nigeria.

Posted by Olusola on September 02, 2010 at 08:50 PM PDT #

1. Go to 2. Select 'Submit Course Form' 3. Sign In 4. Select 'New Submission' 5. Select the Certification Track you are pursuing 6. Follow the steps in the tool You will need: - the name of the course you took - the training facility name - the start date of your course - the city and country in which you took the course - the enrollment number - if you took the course at an Oracle University or Oracle training partner location. If you took the course through WDP or Oracle Academy, leave this item blank.

Posted by bandye barrington on September 09, 2010 at 01:19 AM PDT #

Hey Paul, Trying to track down all the OCP/OCA classes and tests I've take over my career (12 yrs). Does Oracle capture and save this information and how can I access it? Russ

Posted by Russ on October 08, 2010 at 06:53 AM PDT #

Hi Russ, You can go to and view your exam and certfication history (provided all of your exams were taken under the same Candidate ID (Prometric ID). The first time you access CertView, you will need to authorize your account. You will need Oracle Testing ID, Full Name (First and Last Name), Email Address and City. This information should be entered exactly as it is listed in your profile at If you have not yet set up your Pearson VUE web account, you will need to enter the information exactly as it was in your profile at Prometric. If you need assistance with this process, you can contact They typically respond within 72 hours. Regards, Brandye

Posted by Brandye Barrington on October 21, 2010 at 11:28 PM PDT #

Hi, in order to pass the1Z0-402 exam “Enterprise Linux Fundamentals” and achieve the “Oracle Enterprise Linux Certified Implementation Specialist” certification is a led-instructor course compulsory? Or the course is compulsory only for the “Oracle Enterprise Linux Certified Administrator” Certification, that also includes the exam 1Z0-403 exam “Enterprise Linux System Administration”? Thanks Best Regards James

Posted by James on October 28, 2010 at 01:46 AM PDT #

James, yes - you are correct in both cases.

Posted by Paul Sorensen on October 29, 2010 at 12:44 AM PDT #

Hi paul. i have completed my oca exam and also got the oca certification(1z0-007 and 1z0-042). i have been trained in the company i work for as a dba trainee on all the topics of 1z0-043. its same as the hands on course provided by oracle. i have also recieved all the necessary material to prepare for 1z0-043 exam. my question is. is it still necessary to take a hands on course at oracle university or just enter the name of company which gave me hands on training on workshop2??

Posted by Tabrez on December 03, 2010 at 06:11 PM PST #

Hi Paul, I am into the IT field from the last 2.5 yrs dealing mainly in Database(oracle , MS SQL) technologies. As I want to become a Oracle DBA, I had completed my OCA and given OCP paper also. These all are done by self learning and as I am into the database field, there were no issues for the same. But still I have to do the Course, which is really not required. What is your opinion in this scenario.

Posted by Sujith on December 20, 2010 at 11:36 PM PST #

Hi Sujith, Training is required for all DBA OCPs. The training can help candidates prepare for the exams, but that is not their only function. The training courses are to help expand your knowledge and skills. There is a long list of courses that you can choose from that will fulfill your training requirement. You can find a list of courses on our website You can also find more information on the purpose of the training requirement right here on our blog: Feel free to contact our customer service team if you have any additional questions about the training requirement.

Posted by Brandye Barrington on December 27, 2010 at 05:13 AM PST #

Lets say i agree with the mandatory Training session for the Oracle Certification. But why does it have to be so darn expensive? If Oracle wanted to clear out the so called "Bottom Feeders" they could have made the Training mandatory & devised the fees for the same to be manageable if not minimal.

Posted by Rahul Naik on January 24, 2011 at 08:33 PM PST #

Dear Sir, Kindly help me i need to take complete trainning of Oracle. because i will be a good programmer in future. For your kind and immediate action above request is highly appriciated. Thanks & Best Regards. Arshad Ali

Posted by SK ARSHAD ALI on January 28, 2011 at 01:35 PM PST #

Hello Arshad, You can find all the information you need about Oracle Training on our website at If you are looking for certification paths, you can find information on You can also find information on Workforce Developement Training (which may cost a little less) at Regards, Brandye Barrington

Posted by Brandye Barrington on January 31, 2011 at 12:47 AM PST #

"I strongly encourage you to take a close look and consider how you can leverage the required training to improve and broaden your skills. " LOL at you statement. Like said I've taken several courses from Oracle Corporation over the last decade and could clearly see that the quality was going south year by year, especially 10g RAC course was a big joke.

Posted by Om on February 24, 2011 at 12:05 PM PST #

Om, We are sorry you were not satisfied with your more recent OU training courses. Did you provide feedback for OU and/or submit your issues through OU's 100% Student Satisfaction program It the course(s) did not meet your expectations, we encourage you to let OU know. Regards, Brandye Barrington

Posted by Brandye Barrington on February 25, 2011 at 01:30 AM PST #

Hi Paul, Thanks for providing info on HOC requirement. I completely agree with the HOC requirement . I Observe one stange thing,there is no need for HOC if some one upgrade OCP from 9i to 10g.But i have attended the hands on training for 1Z0 007, 1Z0 032, 1Z0 032 also cleared exam 1Z0 007, 1Z0 032 but now if i go for OCP 10g ( by appearing in 1Z0 042 and 1Z0 042 )then these (9i) HOC is not valid for OCP 10g.I beleive these HOC should valid for 10g OCP.Kindly review my point and advice accordingly

Posted by guest on May 26, 2011 at 07:59 PM PDT #

Dear Guest, Earlier versions of training do not count toward later versions of certification. In many cases, the training may not be relevant, or may not provide sufficient training to help candidates prepare for the latere exams. If you have passed 007 and 032. Perhaps you should go ahead and complete your Oracle9i DBA OCP certification and then take the upgrade path. This way, you will have 2 valuable certifications. Regards, Brandye Barrington

Posted by Brandye Barrington on May 31, 2011 at 05:42 AM PDT #

I am a legitimate certification seeker. I have 10 years work experience in the US (5 of that was with Oracle corp in redwood shores). I have already completed the sun certified programmer, web-component-developer and business-component-developer exams after putting in a minimum of 3 months into each of those exams. Now I find myself faced with paying close to $5000 ($3000 oracle fees + 5 days of lost salary) for the enterprise-architect exam.

Oracle should allow for exemptions for legitimate people. Maybe some sort of work experience check. Otherwise, I am giving up on oracle certifications.

Posted by guest on July 10, 2011 at 02:29 AM PDT #

what is the total fees of oracle administration?

Posted by sandip on August 04, 2011 at 02:58 PM PDT #

DIfferent exams are different prices. You should visit our website at From there, you can choose the certification your interested in and determine which exams are required. On the website there is an informational page for each exam. You will find the exam cost in your local currency on those web pages.

Brandye Barrington

Posted by brandye barrington on August 05, 2011 at 02:00 AM PDT #

Hi, Paul.

Have you ever heard the term "artificial scarcity"?

If you want to cut out the bottom-feeders, don't require mandatory classes. A bottom-feeder can easily sit through a class on his employer's dime. Your stated goal can easily be achieved by designing the exams to be more effective at filtering said "bottom feeders." But that isn't the goal, is it? This is nothing more than a crude way of creating artificial scarcity by elevating costs beyond reach of all but the most well-heeled workers. It's like pricing perfume at $200 because it will create the perception of "value," even though the actuals costs are minimal.

I was planning to become certified in Solaris 10, but this change now makes this impossible. Looks like it'll be an RHCSA for me, then.

Posted by Tog on September 28, 2011 at 03:22 PM PDT #

I feel the same, some clients courses like SAP are expensive, Oracle seems to want to create an artificial feeling of value around SCEA as well. After being a java developer for 6 yrs, scjp, scwcd certified and handling advanced web services for more than a year, and now on the lookout for a certification was finding this devasting. I was hoping more good will come with Oracle buying out SUN than restrictive policies aimed at filling its coffers. Myself a techie from Blore, find the cost prohibititive and impossible, though I can pass the exam with flying colours against the best.

Posted by Geo Mathew on October 11, 2011 at 08:46 AM PDT #

It seems like you want to retrive all the acquisition money of SUN from our pocket bit by bit. You may be a rich company but very poor on values on comparision to SUN. I am done with both my Solaris part I & II exmas but still not certified yet because of your greediness. Sir! FYI in India we don't earn in Dollars. Also, I passed both the exams on self study. Why should I go for your stupid training when I can pass on my own???

Posted by guest on November 30, 2011 at 05:50 PM PST #

i would like to submit my hands-on course requirement form that was from january to july 2009 and my testing ID-OCO875656 because after finishing my oracle exams i only received my SQL and OCA 10g certificate but since today i did not receive my OCP 10g professional certificate so please would you mind if you can help me to get my OCP 10g certificate on time because i am really in need of the certificate thanks for your understanding

Posted by NINGA VINCENT AHMED on January 25, 2013 at 05:46 AM PST #

First, you should check to ensure that all of your requirements were completed using the same Oracle Testing ID. You should ensure that the certification has been granted and you should go to to be sure that your address is correct.

You can contact Oracle Certification Support for further assistance.

Brandye Barrington

Posted by Brandye Barrington on January 25, 2013 at 01:40 PM PST #

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