Back to the grind

Got back to Dublin from GUADEC in Kristiansand late yesterday afternoon, only to be immediately dragged out to the pub again.

Was cool to meet up with some of the other GNOME usability folks again (or for the first time, in Bryan's case), even if the prospect of getting the draft HIG into shape for a release in a couple of weeks is a bit scary :)

Can't help feeling a smidgin disappointed at the impact Sun seemed to have this year-- can't quite put my finger on why, as we gave several good presentations, one of which was even running on a Solaris laptop running JDS-- hands up anyone who noticed that? :) Nonetheless I heard a few people commenting that we generally didn't seem to be flaunting ourselves or JDS very much, despite sending our biggest GUADEC contingent ever. (And I'm sure she didn't mean it at all the way it came out, but our Open Source Guru/Diva announcing at the closing keynote that she'd chosen to come to GUADEC over JavaOne because "they weren't really going to say anything there anyway", and defending her ongoing OSX usage to a roomful of GNOME hackers on the basis that "it's an open kernel, right?", didn't do much to boost this particular correpsondent's morale...)

But hey-- just watch us go next year in Germany :)


I'm surprised at the reaction to using OS X. I wasn't there so I can't really comment on how the response was phrased or recieved but seeing how both KDE and Gnome apps (plus Mozilla, OO.o etc.) can run on Mac OS X and work is apparently progressing well on having both desktops in their entirety running on the OS, you'd think it was a fair compromise of open-ness and practicality, particularly for a laptop. I'm struggling to see the better options for a non-hacker Sun employee (assuming they were trying to appeal to Open Source supporting Gnome Hackers): \* the alledgedly-going-to-be-open-sourced Solaris \* a Sun Linux desktop branded with the name of, and to some degree built on, a closed source language \* or a Sun competitor's fully GPL Gnome/Linux end-user focused desktop/laptop distribution. (I'm not even sure the latter exists at the moment). At least you can be sure she's not dual-booting Windows on a Powerbook. (I have no idea why this is refusing to layout as anything other than one big paragraph, oh well)

Posted by dave on July 02, 2004 at 07:08 AM GMT+00:00 #

Maybe it is because of the vaccillating that Sun-the-entity is doing regarding open source in general. People do not want to get emotionally involved in someone they strongly suspect will turn on them at any moment. If someone you basically like is borderline, you want to support them, but at the same time, the emotionally healthy thing to do is to back away until they have resolved their issues (or self-destructed).

Nobody is going to hitch their horse (or even an anorectic ant) onto anything based on Sun-stuff without iron-clad license guarantees that it won't just be yanked away again when Sun does yet another 180� turn.

When you guys stabilize a bit, I'm sure people will be comfortable being within reach of you again :) BTW: your posting scripts are pretty seriously broken - either respect line breaks, or allow html.

Posted by Janne on July 02, 2004 at 07:14 AM GMT+00:00 #

>> defending her ongoing OSX usage Why should she have to defend herself over this ? Sounds a bit fanatical to me (but I wasn't there). Open Source (OS) advocates rave about OS giving everyone the ability to choose. So, the lady chose ! She chose a stable operating system with a very attractive and functional GUI. I don't use OSX but would love to. When the OS offerings reach the polished state that OSX is at, then the lady should have to defend herself against the question "Why pay money for something when a JUST AS GOOD alternative is available for free" Simply put, at the moment the OS offerings are not as refined as the proprietary OSX package. I use Gnome 2.6 on Debian and like it but I would drop it in a heartbeat if I could afford the OSX. Now get me Looking Glass on a \*nix kernel and I might just be tempted to continue putting up with the arcane installation methods and "kludginess" that come with OS software.

Posted by Not a troll on July 03, 2004 at 08:02 AM GMT+00:00 #

She didn't get a particularly hard time over it, and I have to say I personally have nothing against Sun employees or anyone else using OSX in general... it's undeniably the best tool out there for some things. I guess I'd just hoped for a little more effort from somebody who was getting paid to live and breathe open source on behalf of our company... it only got us a couple of snide comments this time, but there are still a lot of people out there who don't believe Sun really embraces the whole open source thing, and it would be nice if we were better at minimising the number of morsels we gave them to chew on :)

Posted by Calum Benson on July 05, 2004 at 04:32 AM GMT+00:00 #

Post a Comment:
Comments are closed for this entry.

I am a Principal UX Engineer in the Systems Experience Design team, working at Oracle (via Sun Microsystems) since the turn of the century. I currently work on sysadmin user experience projects for Solaris. Formerly I worked on open source Solaris desktop projects such as GNOME, NWAM and IPS.


« July 2016