Sun.com Will NOT Disappear After June 1 (Corrected)

A few days ago I wrote:

The www.sun.com site will be decommissioned on June 1 of this year.

In the comments I went on to say that I doubted there would be 1:1 redirects.

I was wrong. (Don't tell my wife I'm capable of saying that!) The www.sun.com domain will NOT be decommissioned or sold on June 1 of this year. Rather, sun.com URLs will redirect to oracle.com URLs, with 1:1 redirects where possible.

Most of the content that was on BigAdmin, OpenSolaris.com, and some sections of SDN has already been migrated to the System Admin and Developer Community of the Oracle Technology Network (OTN).

Our engineering team is working on a solution for the Hardware Compatibility List. I'll let you know where it ends up and in what form as soon as I know.

If you find content on those legacy sites that you'd like to ensure we make available on OTN, please let me know.

- Rick

Comments:

blogs.sun.com?

Posted by Former Sun Blogger on March 10, 2011 at 04:45 PM MST #

Sun blueprints?

Posted by Matt gillard on March 10, 2011 at 06:00 PM MST #

The content in blogs.sun.com will remain available. A blogging platform similar to blogs.sun.com is in the works at Oracle so that blogging can continue as before.

Kemer will tell you about BluePrints.

- Rick

Posted by Richard Ramsey on March 11, 2011 at 12:25 AM MST #

Will you put redirects in place so that all the thousands of links across the web to blogs.sun.com remain functional?

Posted by Former Sun Blogger on March 11, 2011 at 02:24 AM MST #

Oracle does not generally archive out-of-date and unbranded papers. We "rescuing" a limited number of classics, but most of the old blueprints will disappear. You will find various unsanctioned (but not illegal!) mirrors of this old content elsewhere, such as http://www.filibeto.org/sun/lib/blueprints/sun-blueprints-archive.html.

- Kemer

Posted by Kemer Thomson on March 11, 2011 at 02:51 AM MST #

Former Sun Blogger ... I'm not involved with the project, so anything I say is at best rumor, speculation, and hearsay, but I don't expect re-directs. :-(

Tight IT budget.

Rick

Posted by Richard Ramsey on March 11, 2011 at 02:54 AM MST #

Because straight redirects from sun.com to (say) sun-archive.oracle.com cost so much money.

Posted by Mark on March 12, 2011 at 04:00 AM MST #

oracle willingly saying "we don't care" about this history of work that exists in the sun.com domain is yet another indication of the sad sad end of a real legacy of our computing history.

Business decisions lead to such an event, but you can't deny the history, and work that sun.com did, and contributed to what we all know and use and live in.

Sad.

Posted by duran on March 12, 2011 at 04:02 AM MST #

Oracle should do something about their high contrast, red, black & white color scheme.

Posted by foo on March 12, 2011 at 04:16 AM MST #

Pathetic.

Posted by Fred Clausen on March 12, 2011 at 05:01 AM MST #

I believe redirects should be possible (even at tight budgets). We need those!!

Posted by Peter on March 12, 2011 at 08:44 AM MST #

I dont think this is a big deal. Most of the stuff on sun.com is obsolete now. I think that you will find that if you legimately pay for support you get more than what you need in oracle metalink and better quality and accuracy than the content on the sun forums anyway.

Posted by Phil Vid on March 12, 2011 at 10:00 AM MST #

Typical. More proof that Oracle is only interested in saving a few pennies a year and providing the crap service they're renowned for.

Keep up the horrible work, I'm sure you'll make more money using Google for using Java in Android than you will selling your horrible products.

Posted by Some Jerk on March 12, 2011 at 10:02 AM MST #

Horrible. Think of all the beautiful art, the concise and meaningful code that will be lost to humanity.

I myself achieved enlightenment reading EJB that was auto-generated from an XML file in 1999.

Posted by EnterpriseToday on March 12, 2011 at 11:01 AM MST #

sun.com was the first website I ever visited on the internet at "cyberia" cafe in London in 1995. It was advertised on the back page of a magazine in the UK if I remember correctly.

Posted by Gary on March 12, 2011 at 11:26 AM MST #

...sun chemical offering a pretty penny for it, at?

Posted by How much on March 12, 2011 at 01:14 PM MST #

And what about all those URLs out there embedded in stuff like

<%@taglib prefix="c" uri="http://java.sun.com/jsp/jstl/core" %>

Posted by Mike on March 14, 2011 at 07:45 PM MDT #

Hey Mike - who cares about your code or all the rest of you freeloaders using Java without paying Oracle for EVERY SINGLE COPY. So your code breaks, like it did when the schemas were moved or the vendor code was changed? Complain to your account manager. Oh, you don't have an account manager? Guess you don't matter then.

Posted by Larry on March 15, 2011 at 04:29 AM MDT #

@Larry
URLs as schema name spaces were always a bad idea anyway.

Posted by Dimitris on March 15, 2011 at 06:54 AM MDT #

@Larry
A88

Posted by Freeburg on March 15, 2011 at 10:11 AM MDT #

Sun going dark :-( tis a very sad day.

I have an oracle account manager, fat lot of good it does. I also have support contracts, again money exchanged incompetance proffered. I also have a login to the mickey mouse entity that is myOracle support. Grim isn't the word for it. I prefer google and only if I can't find what I need do I reluctantly use this horror.

Oh and they can't come and see me in April cos it's Oracle years end and they are too busy. With Oracle a customer is an inconvenience.

As an aside how many mill do you have to punt in Oracle's direction before they take you seriously?

Anyways rant over.

Posted by ayshf_m on March 16, 2011 at 02:00 AM MDT #

With the costs of storage, CPU, and bandwidth plummeting, how hard could it be to preserve a fixed-size piece of history? When George Orwell wrote about the "memory hole", he was trying to forestall a horrifying prospect.

Obligatory technical content: anybody have a copy of http://www.sun.com/processors/manuals/ge.pdf (GEM Gigabit Ethernet ASIC Specification)?

Posted by Dave on March 16, 2011 at 05:56 AM MDT #

@Dave
some manuals are available at: http://www.filibeto.org/sun/lib/hardware/processors/manuals/
unfortunately the GEM Gigabit Ethernet ASIC Specification document is missing.

Posted by Stoyan on March 16, 2011 at 10:10 PM MDT #

Time for a little Soundgarden I suppose... seems quite fitting...

Posted by black hole sun on March 18, 2011 at 01:29 AM MDT #

Shutting down sun.com is like demolishing The Great Wall of China.

WHY?

Posted by ABC on March 18, 2011 at 04:51 AM MDT #

Ouch.

Thanks very much for sharing and collating the info, and trying to preserve it. It can't be any easier for y'all on the inside of this than it is for us hearing it on the outside. We appreciate your efforts in saving this stuff.

Maybe arrange a big crawl by WAIS / the Internet Archive before blogs.sun.com goes dark?

Keep the faith.

Posted by Strata on March 20, 2011 at 12:24 AM MDT #

[Trackback] Oracle hat offenbar kein Interesse an der Marke Sun und will im Sommer die Domain Sun.com auf Oracle.com umziehen.

Posted by SILICON.de on March 20, 2011 at 10:05 PM MDT #

How about a 1:1 redirect for docs.sun.com? This is my biggest complaint about the oracle take over. No one seems to care.

Posted by Justin on March 21, 2011 at 05:49 AM MDT #

Justin, see if the info in this blog post helps:

http://blogs.sun.com/OTNGarage/entry/more_on_how_to_find

Rick

Posted by Richard Ramsey on March 21, 2011 at 06:07 AM MDT #

Blogs.Sun.com redirects \*are\* in the plan, I believe.

Posted by guest on March 21, 2011 at 08:17 AM MDT #

i just emailed to your wife.

Posted by sga on March 22, 2011 at 05:55 PM MDT #

You have a very nice and motivating posting style, it makes me read your articles with great interest.

Posted by Tiffany & Co on April 17, 2011 at 07:50 PM MDT #

Kerner wrote:

"We "rescuing" a limited number of classics, but most of the old blueprints will disappear. You will find various unsanctioned (but not illegal!) mirrors of this old content elsewhere, such as http://www.filibeto.org/sun/lib/blueprints/sun-blueprints-archive.html."

Following that link says:

"Oracle Corp. requested the removal of all Sun related documents from filibeto.org"

Posted by glen turner on March 19, 2013 at 05:12 PM MDT #

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