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Unbreakable Linux

ok, so it's been about a year since my last entry :-) sorry ! it has been a tad busy as many of you can probably guess from all the activity that's been going around.

The Unbreakable Linux launch at Oracle OpenWorld has been a huge effort and it is very exciting to be in the middle of all this, so to speak. For those that don't recall, we announce a Linux support program called Unbreakable Linux (a second incarnation if you will). We offer support subscriptions for any customer (no Oracle required ! :) which either has an existing Red Hat Enterprise Linux installation (we support RHEL3 and RHEL4) or starts from scratch by downloading our re branded but otherwise identical distribution Enterprise Linux 4(see http://edelivery.oracle.com/linux)

A lot has changed, yet a lot hasn't changed. What hasn't really changed is the type of work we do, we have expanded this and made it a formal worldwide contractual program but in actuality we have been doing this since about 2001/2002. The old program was more of an informal way of helping our Oracle product customers that moved to Linux to have a place to go to if something goes really wrong on the OS side. We have been helping a set of customers over the last number of years in pretty much the same way as we do now. We help them fix the hairy bugs and we provide the best level of support we can provide, and they require. What has changed is that the team has gotten a lot bigger over the years and the capability to offer this to the public at large.

So, many things are going on, and I think it's a good time to re-cap a number of these and clarify some of the misconceptions out there. A few weeks ago I was thinking of writing something up but that was after reading some article written by an individual who had not done any sort of research, randomly put some comments together that were totally off base and I was very upset. That blog entry would not have been very pretty :) so I decided to just delete it. Over the last few months a lot has been said in various places about what it is we do and why, and much of that info has been, quite frankly, wrong. But since it's been so busy and we prefer to focus on helping customers and making this successful, it was better to ignore those things and just move on and let results speak for themselves.

Where to start ... the program

Many people out there still think we jumped into the distribution business. I 'd like to say we are in the Linux OS support subscription business not the building-yet-another distribution business. What our customers have come back to us with over the last 2 years is the request for Enterprise quality support. The ability to talk to someone that will help with difficult problems and provide fixes for those difficult problems in a timely manner. Not having to apply a ton of changes at once, not having to wait 6 or 9 months for a critical bug to get fixed, someone that understands that a system that goes down once a week is in fact, -not- a good thing.

You might say, well duh, of course - well you know though, that actually IS missing (or rather was, until last year ;-) .

That is what we are doing now, that is where we are targeting our efforts. And as I mentioned a few paragraphs earlier, what we have been doing for a few years already but mostly behind the scenes. The reason it is now public is because at some point, we didn't see the previous partner offerings succeed or go where it should go and this was pretty much our only alternative.

So what does this mean to you, the customer. Well first off, if you already run Linux, in particular rhel. It's very easy, just like the demo at Oracle OpenWorld (which was real not fake, and yeah my connection timed out to the server but hey it was a quick fix ;) . you basically keep your existing installation, zero change needed and just use Oracle to get support (metalink/phone) and ULN (unbreakable linux network) for patches (linux.oracle.com). just change up2date as a package that points to our server. everything else will then just be the same from an OS point of view and support comes from here. you might suddenly boot up with a darned cute confident looking penguin :) and see Enterprise Linux rather than Red Hat Enterprise Linux but that's pretty much it.

Secondly, if you don't already have RHEL installed or you are new to Linux or what not, we offer a FREE, yes, FREE, no hassle, no phone calls to sales people or non-free evaluation copies or whatever crippled versions of 2 years ago, download of a set of ISOs which we call Enterprise Linux 4 update 4. It is fully compatible and basically identical to Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 Update 4. We removed the trademarks and applied a few serious bugfixes. This is where all the hoopla and controversy starts. Pretty painful ;-) . It is the same code people, it is the same code. We HAD to re-brand the RHEL setup because you just can't get free for download from anywhere. So we take out trademarks,  copyrights and  graphics and we replace it with, well, other names and definitely a cuter logo ! Between Red Hat, Novell and Oracle, we 're the only one with a penguin as a mascot ! duh. And that becomes our "distribution". Do we want to fork ? No, not at all, not one bit, do we do this for fun ? No. Do we do this to create more work ? No. We do it because that's the only way we can build a CD set based on an open source product from an open source company that we can make available for download for free. That is what we do, I already posted the link above. And guess what, it's update 4, and when we release the next update (5), you can also freely download that one. It's free for production use if you want, no support provided then, but it's fine.  So people still try to say it's a fork. I just don't know how to convince them, I'd say - all the source code is out there, feel free to grab it, compare every single bit of code and post a follow-up to this blog as to where we break application compatibility or any sort of compatibility. There is a link http://www.oracle.com/technologies/linux/el4cert-ds.pdf which shows the differences that you have to be aware of and as you can see it's related to text not to actual applications running.

We are in this to provide a great level of support service that is required in the enterprise space and we offer the software ISOs for free for download so that everyone can deploy this.

That's another topic that has been going around - comparing our downloads with desktop stuff. Ya know - this is an enterprise distribution, we never uttered the work - home, or desktop or cutting edge development distribution. We build a service for businesses. EL4 will likely install on your desktop and if you do and use it we will support everything as we support it for our big  customers, but we 're not focusing on that. So I find it funny how there were comments on how Fedora and OpenSuSE downloads are as many a day as we have had total. Can I point out, there is no free easy download of RHEL or SLES - at all. there is of EL4 , so can I then state that we have had infinite more downloads than both those companies for the enterprise distribution ? If you find that a silly statement then you have to admit that the other statements made are just as silly :) also- the folks downloading our ISO set don't do this at home, they do this at work, and in general make this available to the company on an internal website. so one download for a big company might mean 100's of actual users or 1000's. Either way, what it comes down to is that you cannot compare the download numbers.

ok I am going to stop here for this one and promise that I will add more soon, I might end up writing a book here so let's call this prologue and soon chapter 1 will come. stay tuned.

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Edgar:

Leta??s not forget that Oracle EL4 is not the only RHEL clone that is available for free. There is bunch of other free RHEL distributions available on the net. For example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RedHat_Enterprise_Linux_clones

Andy:

... Can I point out, there is no free easy download of RHEL or SLES - at all. there is of EL4 , so can I then state that we have had infinite more downloads than both those companies for the enterprise distribution ? ..

I believe CentOS meets your criteria for downloading.

of course you are right, both - with other versions like centos and white box and what not out there.

The point I was trying to make, specifically, was that Red Hat as a company and Novel as a company don't have direct clear free download of their RHEL and SLES products. Yet certain individuals compared the downloads of fedora and opensuse with us. What I was pointing out was that that is not something you can compare. Had nothing to do with Centos or others. it was a specific comparison based on statements around rhel vs el.

The other point of course is that we are providing a support service. EL4 vs RHEL4 is just a comparison on providing software from scratch. The core of our offering is support, either directly for RHEL installations or by installing from our ISOs which are basically the same. (as is the case with centos as well)

Paul:

I am quite exciting by the Oracle ULN but I have been disappointed by a single point:
- why not modify the installation to have at least the system ready to install Oracle 10g products? (RDBMS and Application server at least)

For example all the needed packages (libaio missing) and all the kernel parameters set to the value expected by Oracle...

yeah that is a tricky one isn't it. if we made these modifications, then there would have been a bunch of comments saying how we have our own distribution. so well, I think we found a middle ground.

In the very near future we will upload a package, oracle-validated-configuration. which is a very small rpm that has the dependencies needed to install our products and also makes sure some of the required sysctl.conf options are set correctly. this will pull in things like libaio and whatever is required.

We are currently uploading it to ULN so that an existing system registered with ULN just needs an up2date oracle-validated-configurations (I believe that's the name) and you are done. we will also make it available for download on the webpage that lists the validated configurations on oracle.com.

That should help with the packages and installation issues and at the same time not require us to modify the distribution as we do not want to deviate.

Will Oracle Univ be offering EL4 training as part of the curriculum ? One stop shop for OS and Oracle training. Thanks for the updates

absolutely. a whole set of training, dba training specific to EL and sysadmin training.

Jim Perrin:

I see this as someone reckless on Oracle's part. Providing the base distro for free is fine, however many places will take 'free' and not pay for follow-up support. This basically puts oracle in the position of not offering security upgrades until the next major roll-up is available for install.

If you're going to sell support, sell support. Security fixes from upstream aren't support, it's a duty for a reputable distribution. Bug fixes *MIGHT* be support if you/Oracle has to do something more than mimic upstream's fixes. .

I see this as Oracle contributing to the masses of insecure software available. It's irresponsible, reckless; doesn't show diligence, understanding of consumer thinking, or even common sense. It's a crack dealer mentality, and your first hit is free.

Carl from Amsterdam:

Hallo Wim,

I've tried to download Enterprise Linux onto my Windows XP machine more than 3 times now and every time most of the unpacked ZIP files are corrupt.

Also, the download speed drops down to 400 to 500 Kb after a few minutes. I have a 20Mbit Internet connection
so I wonder what's going on. I also don't know why they zip these files, because the unzipped ISO's are only
100KB bigger than the zipped version. If they want people to download stuff, they better make a rock solid
download service available, or outsource it. We're talking about 8CDs here. My solution for now is to not bother anymore with downloads that don't work. You can say what you want about Microsoft, but their downloads work!

Groeten,

Carel

there is always centos which I assumed you would have mentioned or are implying without showing affiliation.

it's hard to contest this because there are always folks that will do as you suggest. having said that, even if you provide updates and people have not connected their stuff right, they also don't get the updates. so you cannot solve this. period.

what this does do, as with all oracle products, is for someone that wants to test something out, without having to pay, they can freely get everything they Need and make things work and make a decision. call it proof of concept stuff or what not. see if they like it before they end up paying for support. all the source is on oss.oracle.com/el4/ so if someone doesn't feel like paying.

you say doesn't show understanding of consumer thinking. we get tons of 'business user feedback' not consumer as in homeuser per se. and those business users want to try out our products and for years could not get a certified distribution for trial for free. they don't ask for updates, they just want to do a basic setup, test soemthing out and then decide. and not one of these is going to move forward without getting the support subscriptions needed.

these are not systems that are on the public network or so in general, the folks taht download most of it from our end are not the folks hosting dedicated servers, or home users. they tend to have a project where they have a server in their office. security still important sure- sort of - but not as extreme as you like to put it.

either way - we have no intent to compete with centos usage. people have a choice. So I dont'want to make this into a politically charged flamewar.

and we spend more time fixing stuff than many folks assume. in fact, for your reference, the centos patch we took to make some stuff work has a clear note of that in our changelogs. any patch we take from anyone we acknowledge in the changelogs. There are a ton of bugfixes and patches coming from us, and I am sure others, where there is absolutely no reference whatsoever in certain distribution vendors package releases. while that is annoying, I don't think there is a need to use harsh words for that.

Hi Carel, I will have folks look into it and make sure that we have a good set of instructions for windows burning. we will also make it possible to order CDs soon.sorry for the inconvenience

Robert:

Hello,
I haven't seen the oracle-validated-configurations RPM at http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/linux/validated-configurations/index.html. Is there a timeline for when this might be released? I seems like it would be very useful.
Thanks,
Robert

the rpm is on our network (ULN). we will have to do some modifications to put it on the website. ULN is ideal for this sort of stuff as it makes it nicely integrated with our linux support offering.

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