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Oracle + Scripting is Groovy

The combination of Oracle Database + open-source scripting languages such as php, python, ruby, et al is really gathering steam, if the popularity of related content on OTN is any indication. "Ruby on Rails on Oracle" and "Wrapping Your Brain Around Oracle and Python" were simply blockbusters and we hope to replicate their success with new multi-part series in the next quarter.

Tug Grall's "Grails on Oracle for Java Developers" looks to be on a similar path; Harshad Oak of indicthreads.com has kindly offered do provide more Groovy content based on his JavaOne session this week as well.

Oracle is really sticking its neck out to support these open-source communities (and has been doing so for php for well over two years); the Java platform team recognizes their potentially complementary value to J2EE (witness Oracle support for JSR-223) in an SOA. This of course is something that SAP won't touch with a 10-foot pole -- Shai Agassi in fact is on record for calling open source "IP socialism."

Comments (7)

I wouldn't go so far as to say that "SAP won't touch [that] with a 10-foot-pole", just recently this was posted over on ">Venture Chronicles.

Justin Kestelyn:

Hey, from the man himself! Kudos to you but from the sound of Jeff's post, this isn't exactly a company-endorsed initiative.

SAP hasn't been as public in our support of open source as Oracle has, but the fact remains that we are investors in Zend, Red Hat, MySQL, Black Duck, and a couple of other open source companies.

The public comments about open source have been really overblown, but the fact remains that there has existed in the open source community some real challenges to adoption by large vendors with mature products. Recent license evolutions have gone a long way to putting in place commercially friendly licenses, time will tell how they suceed.

Lastly, NetWeaver has supported scripting languages for quite a while, in fact if you go on SDN right now and search on Python, PHP, or Ruby you will find detailed articles covering how to take advantage of these tools.

Justin,

You probably should include a link to the debunk from Shai Agassi on the vnunet article. You can find it on https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/weblogs?blog=/pub/wlg/1700

It might not change your mind on SAP and open-source, but at least it will be alot more credible than a journalist trying to make a big headline.

Quote from the debunk:
"Tom Sanders, who wrote about my remarks at the Churchill Club on VNUnet.com got the story wrong and took my quotes completely out of context. And his story, with its sensational headline, didn't properly characterize my point of view and has led to hundreds of angry and misplaced comments in the blogosphere about my views"

Regards
Dagfinn

Thierry Chantier:

I know this is quite an old article, but I'm proud to have small news of another Oracle product interaction with Groovy.

http://thierrychantier.blogspot.com/

It is now possible to use Groovy within Oracle Data Integrator.
Who knows: Groovy may become part of the product one day ;)

Andre Guldi:

what is the level of support for Groovy in JDeveloper 11g ?

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